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02-28-2010 04:44 PM  10 years ago
IYKIST

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These are the kind of folks that never progress past their entry level jobs. Degenerates...
Well said, very sad people that blame others for their lack of progress in life.
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02-28-2010 05:01 PM  10 years ago
HELIHEAD

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you can fire union workers with good cause, looks like poor management not watching their employees. these guys could be fired and should be fired. without unions we all would be working for mininum wage, especially since we have alot more people than jobs. i wonder what they would do if you put "PLEASE CRUSH" on the package.
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02-28-2010 05:34 PM  10 years ago
McKrackin

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What scares me is...How else can they get the parcels in those high sided wagons?
It seems like they are thrown over the side by design.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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02-28-2010 10:04 PM  10 years ago
LONEWOLF2440

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FEdEx did more damage during shipping than i could of done crashing it me and my friend always used them. I will never ever send another package Fedex and the same goes for him.MIKADO LOGO 600 TREX 550
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02-28-2010 10:47 PM  10 years ago
jester4

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Well said helihead. Being part of a union does not guarantee you'll have a job no matter how stupid you are on the job. People that think otherwise are talking out of their ass....

I used to work the sorting line a long long time ago at UPS, and speed was always enforced, but damaging packages was not. Sometimes when the line gets backed up you have no choice but to take shortcuts, but that was up to the loader, and not company policy.

Where is the supervisor to those guys unloading the plane? Should the supervisor get a free pass for not enforcing company policy and allowing this behaviour (which I'm sure was not the first time). There's a good chance the supervisor was not a union member. Does that mean that non-union workers are incompetent?
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02-28-2010 11:55 PM  10 years ago
fla heli boy

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absolutely they should be fired. There's just no excuse for treating other peoples property like that.
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03-01-2010 01:13 AM  10 years ago
777ER

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In that video, you can tell it was Northwest Airlines rampers.

They're unionized.

In the crap conditions they're working in, they basically don't give a flying crap...unless the aicraft gets damaged by ramp equipment, and yes I'm talking about a dime sized dent.

At work, I even seen baggage fall off the side of belt loaders, tugs pulling baggage carts and one or two bags fell off, they kept on driving not noticing it. I'd have to stop my truck, pick up the luggage that fell off, put it in my truck and catch up to the ramper tug, hand the bag back to him and tell them be more careful next time.

I don't want to replace a engine if that baggage was left out carelessy and got sucked up by a inbound or departing aircraft.

As for shipping, I use UPS 85% of the time for inbound stuff to my house because I know the driver and know my packages always arrives with very little to no damage, heck he even rings the bell after he dropped it off.

Outbound packages, I use USPS because it's cheaper to ship out with them.

If I have no choice and it's FedEx, the driver just takes a few steps up, then toss or throws my package at my door!

Airborne Express had the best shipping logistic but too bad DHL brought them out, then DHL pulled out of the domestic shipping market

At work, it's always FedEx since we have a contract with them to ship documents and aircraft parts (non critical parts that is).
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03-01-2010 01:18 AM  10 years ago
777ER

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Where is the supervisor to those guys unloading the plane? Should the supervisor get a free pass for not enforcing company policy and allowing this behaviour (which I'm sure was not the first time). There's a good chance the supervisor was not a union member. Does that mean that non-union workers are incompetent?
You don't see supervisors out on the ramp on every aircraft that comes in.

Either they're in the office looking at the screen monitoring delays making sure rampers aren't causing delays, or they're doing random checks.

You bet in that weather, they're looking for something else to do rather than being out in that conditions.

If there was aircraft damage reported, they come out and meet with the mechanics, crew and managers.
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03-02-2010 02:13 AM  10 years ago
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Ever wonder why our packages get damaged?
Sometimes package damage has nothing to do with package handling and everything to do with loose bicycle seats.
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03-02-2010 04:44 AM  10 years ago
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The worst piece of handling I have seen was at Sydney airport a few years ago....a cage with about half dozen pups being thrown a good three feet in the air to land on a conveyer loading a plane. As the cage bounced it rolled onto it's side, nearly falling off the conveyer. This caused great hilarity to the handlers....laughing their arses off in full view about 100 people looking on through the glass windows of the terminal.
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03-02-2010 02:28 PM  10 years ago
vinver

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United Breaks Guitars
That's why I pack things extra carefully for shipping. I expect the plane to drop it off mid-flight ...
A local musician made recent fame with a song called United Breaks Guitars. After WATCHING the United baggage handlers from the window of his plane destroy his favorite guitar, his complaints fell on deaf ears . So he told them he'd write three songs about his experiences. The first, titled "United Breaks Guitars", was a smash hit. Mostly promoted on Youtube (Look it up if you can stand a country-twang).
United claims they lost millions .. finally offering to pay for damages as I recall. Dave got WAY more fame from that song than the cost of any guitar..
Vince
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03-02-2010 02:32 PM  10 years ago
lloyd

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At least you chaps get your "damaged parcel" ours get stolen here.......
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03-02-2010 02:32 PM  10 years ago
Michael503

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I remember seeing this vid on TV about a decade ago. it was Xmas season.
They are airline employees and were supposedly fired.

That said, I received a box UPS a few weeks ago that had been crushed from multiple angles and had also come open. The snow delay may have had something to do with it.
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The unpainted canopy inside was spider cracked over 30% of its surface. It was no big deal since, it didn't fit well anyway, and further testing showed it cracked at the least bit of flex. Y'know those video tests for a brand of canopy where the guy shows how tough it is compared to an Align canopy by beating on it with his fist? The strength must be in the clearcoat they use, cuz their unpainted ones actually spall off bits of gelcoat when you do that. Fragile like an egg.

Disgusted, I put it in the dustbin.
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03-02-2010 05:20 PM  10 years ago
McKrackin

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Someone mentioned USPS being cheaper for his outbound stuff....
I guess that is subjective.
I sent a Trex 500 from here(Ohio)to Arizona yesterday.
I used UPS.It was $75 and insured for $800.
I tried USPS first and it was going to be $110 without insurance,so....

The package was 16X16X36 and weighed 20lbs.

I hope it makes it ok.It's a nice heli.
I gave the guy a helluva deal for a BNF heli with Helicommand 3D,Triton charger and two 2650mAh 6S lipos.$825 shipped.
I'd hate to see it arrive all banged up.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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03-02-2010 07:42 PM  10 years ago
Mioca

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Many packages from Amain, HeliDirect, RCHover..etc = zero damages
USPS +1
UPS & Fedex the Worst!
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03-02-2010 07:46 PM  10 years ago
tadawson

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Out here, UPS is 75% damages, FedEx looks like it's still new, and I wouldn't trust a bag of dog crap to the USPS . . .

- Tim
Friends don't let friends become electrotarded . . . .
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03-04-2010 04:54 AM  10 years ago
vinver

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United Breaks Guitars song 3 now posted
Ironically, March 1st marks the release of Sons of Maxwell's release of the third song in the United Breaks Guitars trilogy, now posted on youtube.com . Has only 8000 hits so far,not likely to match the total of the original United Breaks Guitars video, it has almost 8 million views!!
Go Dave Maxwell, sticking it to big business.
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03-04-2010 06:41 AM  10 years ago
Blades345

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FIRE THEM ALL!!! IDIOTS!When u don't feel like soaring through the air with a plane, beat it into submission w/ a heli!
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03-04-2010 11:04 PM  10 years ago
ren

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This is call "2nd party crash test", just to finish the QA before arrives!!!!
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03-04-2010 11:46 PM  10 years ago
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I witnessed something similar a while back at our local airport. I had rented a 172 for a pleasure flight but when I arrived at the FBO it was foggy and below VFR minimums. I went upstairs to the pilots lounge and poured a cup of coffee. From the picture window, I noticed a Fedex Cessna Caravan just coming to a stop. When the door opened, packages started falling out to the concrete below. The pilot was inside pushing packages out of his way with his feet so he could get out! The Fedex ground crew backed in with 4 vans, went inside, pushed the rest of the packages out onto the concrete, and then started 'sorting'. They would throw them 10 - 15 feet from where the lay on the ground and into one of the vans. I mentioned it to one of the other pilots in the lounge. He just laughed and said it was a regular show that he had grown tired of watching many months before!

I must say, however, they were very efficient and were finished on on their way within 10 to 15 minutes.

Later;

D.W.
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