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02-25-2010 10:23 PM  10 years ago
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Spackermen

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Feeling stuck
I have been flying for a while now (probably 3 years?) and am fairly decent. (I can hover, FF, Sloppy Tic Tocs (LOL) tailslides, etc.) and I feel like I have just hit this mondo wall that I can't get over. It took me forever to learn tail down inverted funnels on the sim, and after that my mind just isn't progressing. What do you all do when you get to that point? Surely I am not the only one that feels like I am not even close to the point that I wish I were. On the other hand, if I could fly any manuver, and direction, would it lose it's "Fun Factor?" I remember the days of learning to hover. I was so so happy when I could hover it for 10 seconds, even if I brought a ball of a helicopter home, and now I just already have started to lose that fun factor and feel like I am not to the point that I really should be/want to be. Any suggestions?
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02-25-2010 10:24 PM  10 years ago
VooDooX

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heres what i do whenever i feel like you are right now.. i pick a move DOESNT MATTER what move just a move then do it on the sim OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again for an hour no matter how many times you crash keep doing it EVENTUALLY it will click thats my cure for the stucks im currently working on GEAR IN tic tocs ...reallly really hard...thoVelocity 50 "99.9999999999999% of an atom is empty space." also 01001000 01001001
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02-25-2010 10:28 PM  10 years ago
Elgreco

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I usually take a look at some videos, pay attention to a particular move and try to do it.

I was feeling the same way like you until I started breaking it down to moves and once I hit the sim and realized it does require a lot more work than I thought, it gave me a purpose.

I stick to it until I can do it descent, and then I move to the real thing.

It takes time (at the frequency I get to fly ), so it gives me something to look forward to.

Everything new I learn, I try to fit it to a routine in my flying time..

Good luck.

EDIT: posted at the same time...Voodoo beat me to it
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02-25-2010 10:41 PM  10 years ago
Spackermen

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http://www.rchelicopter.co.uk/moves.htm

Found this that helps explain manuvers a little. Never really seen anything like it before. But I guess it's the little things like when you're working on a manuver to know if you put a little rudder in it will climb or descend. There's no shortage of things I would like to try but my brain says no. Lol.
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02-25-2010 10:48 PM  10 years ago
AWittleWabbit

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Don't burn your self out. Try shorter sessions on the sim. I do 10mins a day. If your near a breakthrough go longer. You'll just aggravate yourself. Remember, it's supposed to fun. I stop flying when it starts feeling like homework. If you don't have a giant erection to go flying, you wont progress or have fun. At least I don't.Heli-itis sufferer.
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02-25-2010 10:55 PM  10 years ago
S.Dykes

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If your stuck add piros to the moves you already know. Once you get that down pretty good you will find yourself varying the moves and flowing from one move to another without even thinking about it.

It will just start to click, i guess...

Learning piroing moves has allowed me to learn moves that i didnt think would be possible from my hands.
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02-25-2010 11:31 PM  10 years ago
Tom Wrobleski

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I feel your pain got into the same rut. I started going back to all the stuff that I skipped over trying to hang with everybody else. Get back to learning all flight orientations, like backwards flight it will help in funnels, inverted flight both upright and inverted. Another challenge is to try to fly the entire flight piroing you will not believe how much it will help with other manouvers.
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02-25-2010 11:58 PM  10 years ago
Zaneman007

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I'll second what the wrobleski said.

On the sim, I have started flying all of my orientations in a T pattern, first sideways, then forwards and backwards. When I do the forwards and backwards flights, I do them from the left and right side, seems to make a difference. It has made me less prone to the panic attack when the heli comes out of a trick sideways, inverted and backwards.

And always fly high, at least two mistakes worth.

Last but not least, face the fear. Nothing like pulling off a new trick for the first time.
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02-26-2010 02:20 PM  10 years ago
nofear

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You should move somewhere where you are forced to take a break from flying for a few months of the year due to winter weather.

When you come back at the beginning of the new season you are so pumped up and excited.
Remember the feeling of nervous anticipation you used to feel when you first started flying...welll you get that all over again...except now you can actually fly the heli and are itching to get it in the air and ring it out.

Sometimes a small break from the hobby, even just a few weeks can restore your perspective on things.
Even clears out those old mental blocks we all come up against at some point.

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02-26-2010 04:09 PM  10 years ago
dhc8guru

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I have kinda hit a wall also. You just have to power thru it. Try taking what you know and combine it into a "demo". This is helping me keep things interesting and refining what I know.
Also you can add in simple plank moves like a cuban 8 for example.
Everyone assumes that the pro's learned overnight or were some prodigy. They put in years of hard work.
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02-26-2010 04:35 PM  10 years ago
Spackermen

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@ NoFear... I guess that's the problem. I live in northern Utah and we get quite cold and quite a bit of snow and I refuse to fly in it. I know... I'm a wuss but this year, I have been hitting the sim pretty hard, and I have in the past just let it sit all winter, and pick back up on it the next spring. Maybe it'd be a good idea to put it down for a little while. But on the other hand, I want to practice so when spring comes, I can just go fly, and not have to play catch up for the first month or so.Kickin it - flybar style.
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02-26-2010 04:43 PM  10 years ago
Yug

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Don't go punishing yourself. Sometimes things just don't flow so well so go easy, break the mould and tinker with something completely new. You might find new inspiration
How 'bout piros or snakes or something ?
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