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02-28-2010 07:12 PM  10 years ago
Gregor99

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2) Experienced pilots who just want something fun to buzz around the house/office with.

Not everything needs to be a learning tool, nor a brick in the road to a higher level of <something>
Ya know, I went into the mSR purchase with this in mind. I had low expectations and thought it would a fun toy in the winter months. So I wasn't really dissapointed per sa.

However, over time I found that I felt better about working toward my goals with sim time and eventually the mSR just sat on the shelf.

Perhaps I would have enjoyed the mSR more if I didn't feel so far behind my own personal goals. I know its not a race, but I have goals in mind, and have since the beginning. I think they are realistic given focused effort. The mSR just wasn't contributing to those goals. But now it is.
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03-01-2010 12:17 AM  10 years ago
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For sure it is good idea every time to have a goal or set of goals in mind. But this hobby isn't it supposed to be hobby?

As for 4G6, I stopped flying 4#3 after acquiring 4G6, despite the fact, that I spent plenty of time tuning it and tweaking. Did it make me better pilot during this winter (flying, not tuning)? I do not know, we'll see.

For sure it is better then SIM. Still scared to flip inside, despite the fact, that I routinely set it in the air tail down and back to upright again.
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03-01-2010 12:34 AM  10 years ago
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Oh I forget to say. People on RCG talking of 4#6 say that is it easy conversion to 4G6. Head, blades, servo, motor and Rx. Easier to buy new heli, I think and spares can be shared.
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03-01-2010 01:24 AM  10 years ago
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But this hobby isn't it supposed to be hobby?
I like that I have said that myself and not just because of my lame skills. If your enjoying it your doing it right.
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03-01-2010 01:37 AM  10 years ago
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I have to agree with you tryans,If your having fun and enjoying yourself at any skill level then this is the right hobby for you to be in.... The key is to enjoy the hobby, this is not a competition....Tom..... No "D" flying....
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03-01-2010 01:45 AM  10 years ago
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Thats where your wron slider its all about the 3D if you aint 3D you aint cool.No Really I am the club President!!!
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03-01-2010 02:08 AM  10 years ago
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OH yea I forgot that point.... I'm still in charge of no "D" flying....Tom..... No "D" flying....
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03-01-2010 02:55 AM  10 years ago
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Ya know, I went into the mSR purchase with this in mind. I had low expectations and thought it would a fun toy in the winter months. So I wasn't really dissapointed per sa.

However, over time I found that I felt better about working toward my goals with sim time and eventually the mSR just sat on the shelf.
And thus sums up the life span of the lesser challenging helis.
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03-01-2010 02:57 AM  10 years ago
Gregor99

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For sure it is good idea every time to have a goal or set of goals in mind. But this hobby isn't it supposed to be hobby?
Does "hobby" mean that you cannot work toward a goal? I know many hobbies are this way, with the ultimate goal being relaxation. But there are also many hobbies which are achievement oriented and there's really nothing wrong with either. Just as long as you know why you are in it and you are true to yourself.

Oh one more thing, there is not one 3d move in my current list of heli goals.
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03-01-2010 03:08 AM  10 years ago
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The key is to enjoy the hobby, this is not a competition....
I suppose this is response to the sentiment I added in the thread. I've got to say, I think my comments were missunderstood. There's a very big difference between having and working towards personal goals and competing. I don't plan on competing in helis, that's not in my goals.

I still remember the many firsts in this hobby. One example, after hours and hours of "working towards my goals" I pulled off my very first Toolman piro. I was on such a high, I couldn't get to sleep until about 2am. Now that is what I call fun. Do you remember your first hover? Your first flip?What a rush. What a sense of accomplishment.
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03-01-2010 12:49 PM  10 years ago
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Its not a competition but for most people the natural progression is to get better at flying these Stinkin No good heli's You could literally hover tail-in in one spot for years and maybe never crash, most,not all would get so bored it wouldn't really be worth doing anymore. I'm no 3D pilot either but can't just let the heli just hover there ---- the Heli would get bored too
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03-02-2010 01:58 AM  10 years ago
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I can really understand Gregs point, it was just too good an opportunity to have a little fun.

I tend to be much less structured than Greg does, so when he said he had set goals, it really goes against my way of doing things like this.

When I got into fixed wing, many years ago, my "goals" changed as my abilities advanced. I never really had a set list of goals, but the evolution is there.
It went from a "keep it in the air, keep it in the air, keep it in air..." type of mantra every time it left the ground, to working on greater precision, and control. My "goal" was to become as good a pilot as I needed to be to have fun. (simple enough).

That of course evolved as time went by, into learning more stunts, and flying with greater precision, until I hit a point where it was more work than fun. At that point, I changed my tactic, and started flying with other people (I learned at a "private" field where at most one other pilot may show up). Then I started flying fun flys, etc., just to keep it fun.

Different people approach this stuff differently.
Right now, with the helis, I still don't have any set "goals" beyond just becoming as good a pilot as I need to in order to fly & enjoy myself. And to be good enough to allow myself to fly at a local field around other pilots.

I actually admire Greg in a way for his structure.
I could use more of that in my life.
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03-02-2010 02:00 AM  10 years ago
!2Old2Fly

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Getting back to the CB100
I may hold off, yet again, on pulling the trigger on this.

There was a round of lay-offs at the office today.
They missed me, for today, but my boss got hit! When they lay off the boss, you know it's time to hunker down.

I think I'll hang on to that couple of dollars for now.
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03-02-2010 05:00 AM  10 years ago
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that's too bad, I'm glad my work in kinda getting busy.

I hate paying for dataplan on phones.
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03-02-2010 05:11 AM  10 years ago
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Sorry to hear that !2old. Glad to hear you were not affected. Same thing happened to some friends of mine. Seems like even though the economy has bottomed out, companies are not done adjusting to the new reality.Revolectrix Beta Team
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03-02-2010 07:43 AM  10 years ago
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Yeah, well... in this case, the economy is more the result of acts like this than the other way around.

I work at IBM Global.
They're transferring all of their support off-shore to Argentina, Brazil, and India. Their goal is "No US Based Support".
They're more the cause of the problem than the other way around.
I fully expect to be unemployed by the end of the month.
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03-02-2010 11:40 AM  10 years ago
tryan02

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companies are not done adjusting to the new reality.
My company has after laying off 60 people we have setup a office for a teporary service agency. They brought in 60 temps you should get the opportunity to work with the bottom of the barrel workforce it's a real eye opener. OH forgot to mention the full time employees now have to work 10-12 6 days a week to compensate for the loss of skilled labor and now being understaffed to keep up with normal production. While constantly trying to grow keeping the stock holders happy.

Well thats my daily rant off to work 5:30-5:30!!!!

More helis for me hey if they pay me too much maybe I'll buy you a CB100 2old watch your mailbox.
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03-02-2010 11:46 AM  10 years ago
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Sorry to hear of this !2Old2Fly.

But that's world tendency - moving work force to places where it is cheaper. It happens all over the place. Even in our hobby - all is made in China. We pay - they get paid. When Canadian $ was 1.5 US, there were quite a number of US companies here. Now $$$ are almost equal. Guess where these companies moved.

As of competition or not competition, men are always in competition. It is in nature, whether we like it or not. Better flying, better heli, smoother flying, more exact scale build, etc. A lot of opportunities in our hobby. But we are in competition, even if we say that not.
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03-02-2010 04:45 PM  10 years ago
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Tryan,
Believe me, I've been working with the bottom of the barrel (in India) for the past couple of years. They're barely useful, but IBM has decided "they're the future".. <cough>
I've been doing the 12-16 hour days, most days a week too. We had to compensate for their weak skill set.

It's cheaper for the big companies to move their operations off-shore, so the guys at the top make more money.
But if no one here is working, then no one here will be buying much, now will they?

Hmm.. my wife has family in Indonesia... (which is where we met).
Maybe if I move back there, IBM would consider me "off-shore", and let me keep working.
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03-03-2010 09:36 PM  10 years ago
!2Old2Fly

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I had a short "heart to heart" with the boss today concerning recent events. Seems there is a major paradigm shift happening at ol Big Blue.

The short side of it all is: It looks like I'll be stuck at this desk for a while longer.
I may order that CB100 yet.
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