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02-24-2010 07:04 PM  10 years ago
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oteskate

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Comparison between Magnum and Rotor Rage fuels
Hey all... Currently, and for the longest time, I've been using the CY 30% Wildcat fuel. I've liked running this fuel, but have always disliked running my engines on the line of overheating just to acquire good power and performance. Also, acquiring the fuel year-round has become somewhat challenging at times. This had led me to contemplate a new fuel choice.

I have recently been considering switching fuels to something cooler-running, clean-burning while still providing good, competition-level performance. I, of course have heard all the great things about Rotor Rage fuel and how it is one of, if not the best fuel out there currently, but at $32+/gal., it's quite expensive. I have no problem paying good $$ for a fuel that really shines above all the rest, but I've also heard alot of great things about the new Magnum fuels, and at $10+ less than the competition, it is worth it if the performance is equal to other "big name" fuels.

With today's technologies, it's difficult for me to believe that one fuel is SO night and day above the rest that it makes all others obsolete and justifies such an increased fuel cost and it's difficult to choose a fuel just from watching a vid of some "pro" flying amazingly with such great power throughout the flight. Many fliers that I've known simply follow the trend of what top pilots fly and expect it to be "the best". I'm not a trend follower, but one that wants a fuel that delivers consistant performance at a great price without all the "fluff" that comes with many of the big name companies.

Just wanted to try and get some good, honest comparisons of the two, along with any performance, tuning or engine life pros/cons that any of you have seen between these two fuels. Thanks!
Jeff
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02-24-2010 07:58 PM  10 years ago
jadams

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I fly Rotor Rage and a bunch of my friends I fly with have switched to it from Magnum. While it is more expensive, you know the saying....

I've noticed that it is far easier to tune for solid power on Rotor Rage without the heat i've seen try to tune for close to the same power on Magnum. See if u can find someone in the area and just try a few tanks to get it tuned in. My guess is that u'd see similar results. the reduced heat and associated wear/tear on the engine should make up for the difference in price over time. engines are damn expensive, especially with the new crop out there
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02-25-2010 04:39 AM  10 years ago
TMoore

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Let's see, I've purchased over 200 gallons of Magnum fuel in the last 3 years alone and it runs great, doesn't burn up engines and makes power like its going out of style. I've got over 50 gallons of the 30% in the barn and looking forward to using it up and buying more. I can't see where Byrons has anything on Magnum other than the price.

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02-25-2010 04:58 AM  10 years ago
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Not sure if I've put that much through my engines but its pretty close. The Magnum,to me,is not as hard on bearings and does'nt run as hot as some "big names" cause thats all they are is names. What other fuel mfg can you call on the phone and actually talk to the man that blends the fuel himself? Excelent service in my book goes a long way, the lower price is just a bonus!Keep ur head out the dirt only in the grass
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02-25-2010 08:24 AM  10 years ago
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the best fuel out there by far, price wise as well as performance wise is Magnum DS, no nitro fuel. runs cooler, same power, easy to tune, and a much better price. If you buy it in bulk, with other pilots, you can get it for as little as 16.00 or 17.00 dollars a gallon, and I think the most you'll pay is around 21.00 a gallon though.

The main problem with asking people to compare fuels, is, the one they use is always the best!! Bearing wear is an issue with ALL nitro fuels, so, you have to dismiss that issue, fuel to fuel.







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02-25-2010 01:56 PM  10 years ago
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02-25-2010 02:34 PM  10 years ago
bkervaski

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The only two I've flown is Powermaster 30% and Rotor Rage, having recently switched, here's my personal observations:

I couldn't tell the difference in flight or tuning performance, but where Rotor Rage is clearly superior is with its detergent and oil package.

The inside of my motors look new *all of the time* even after 50 flights there is no carbon stains. It even managed to clean up an engine that had a few hundred flights, looks new again.

When the motors sit around for weeks (or months in my case due to winter) of no flying, there is considerably less rust build up on the bearings and internals.

The oil package in Rotor Rage also doesn't stain my mufflers, Rotor Rage seems to burn "clean".

Rotor Rage rocks, I don't mind spending a couple extra bucks.

Oh, and I like the color, highly visible.
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02-25-2010 02:53 PM  10 years ago
jschenck

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I've got over 50 gallons of the 30% in the barn
Where's that barn at
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02-25-2010 03:08 PM  10 years ago
oteskate

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Thank you all for the great responses!

Yes, I do hear how the RR detergents and clean burn are very favorable traits of their mix. I'm going to be calling to speak with Magnum personally and will inquire further on what detergents they use and compare that to the RR ingredients. From what I've heard from the Magnum users, they are also having quite good luck with clean engines as well, so I'm assuming the detergents are similar in both brands.

I'm considering trying the nitro and DS blends of the Magnum and comparing the two, as the DS is a great alternative if it still runs as strong as a 30% nitro blend, but also offers a clean burn, easy tuning and less mess all over my heli.

Terry, I'll make sure I come over to your barn and try a gallon. Haha!

I noticed that Magnum also offers bearing replacements (Magnum Center Glide Bearings). Has anyone used these and if so, have you seen an improvement over stock OS bearings?

Thanks guys!
Jeff
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02-25-2010 03:34 PM  10 years ago
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I'm going to be calling to speak with Magnum personally and will inquire further on what detergents they use and compare that to the RR ingredients. From what I've heard from the Magnum users, they are also having quite good luck with clean engines as well,
After one conversation with Buzz, you'll probably feel like many of us, you now have a friend to buy fuel from. Besides his great and practical knowledge, Buzz is a terrific guy and makes it a pleasure to make business with him. And the fuel, yes is all that. (About 100 gallons in the last 5 years and loving it )

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02-25-2010 03:36 PM  10 years ago
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I noticed that Magnum also offers bearing replacements (Magnum Center Glide Bearings). Has anyone used these and if so, have you seen an improvement over stock OS bearings?
Having had the trouble with the rear bearing in my NEW OS55hz, I had Buzz send me one of his new rear bearings, and I got to say, it appears to be the same quality as the one I have right now in my 55 from the factory. It has the same amount of balls the new one has (12) and thats what everyone seems to be thrilled about, so we'll see. I am currently running the one that they put in from Hobbico, but, as soon as it wears out, I will test the new one from Buzz.







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02-26-2010 08:47 PM  10 years ago
Gernejr

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I've when from CP 30% to CY 30% to save 5 bucks a gal. When back to CP30% as CY wildcat need to run to hot to make power .. I when back to CP30%ls till about 10 gals ago with i got a dealer here to order Rotor rage 30 for me.. First it tunes excatly like Cool Power but i think it burns cleanier there less oil on heli and power is great and heres the bonus 5 bucks cheaper a gal at 25.00 gal.. vs 30.00 gal for CP30%ls.. So till some nitro company sponsors me I'm looking for the Best Bang for the Buck i can get...
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02-26-2010 10:39 PM  10 years ago
Dirthead

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If your looking for the best bang then you should try Magnum DS, same if not more power runs cooler, costs less.Keep ur head out the dirt only in the grass
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02-27-2010 04:05 AM  10 years ago
Gernejr

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Whats the website link? Is it just called Magnum DS 30% ?
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02-27-2010 04:08 AM  10 years ago
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http://www.magnumfuels.com/Hell... I can fix that.
Uh oh..
Nope.
It's ***ked!!!
RE-KIT!!!!!
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02-27-2010 05:40 AM  10 years ago
oteskate

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Hey guys... well, I got my first experience with Magnum fuels tonight when "Buzz" gave me a call in return of a message that I left for him earlier in the day. I know I've been hearing so many great things about his fuel, but his customer service and just overall personality was really fantastic. It was really great to have a conversation with a real person that listened to my concerns and helped to guide me in the right direction to potentially help solve some of the issues I've been having with my current fuel choice.

Customer service is always important to me when it comes to the products that I choose to fly, and if this is any indication as to the quality and time he puts into his Magnum fuels, then I'm definitely impressed and will be a long-time user.

Looking forward to getting my first few cases, testing it out and making my engines happy again. Thanks for all the suggestions, and thanks for the initial help from Greg Gomes @ Hirobo/MRC and Terry Moore for his help, too! I'll definitely repost as soon as I get flying again once all the snow, rain and cold go away and let you all know my thoughts on the fuel performance.
Jeff
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02-27-2010 06:44 AM  10 years ago
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So his prices include shipping, do they also include any hazmat fees? Or are those per bottle prices all you pay?
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02-27-2010 08:43 PM  10 years ago
merlin3

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rotor rage rocks, very similar to coolpower but overall better. ive ran magnum,wildcat,coolpower, and rotor rage and rotor rage is the best ive ran.Justin - Team Horizon, Team Byron
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02-27-2010 09:42 PM  10 years ago
Santiago P

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Been watching merlin3 use RR and is been very good for him. No melted engines. Just kidding man.

BTW merlin3, are'nt you a rep now?

oteskate

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02-27-2010 10:02 PM  10 years ago
Hayes

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Yes JasonJ, the per bottle price is all you pay..
Thanks,
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