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02-22-2010 07:23 PM  10 years ago
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wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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exi 450 trex clone flipped and lost control , vid
well the first flip went nice but it got a little windy
and on the sebond flip a gust blow the helicopter over my head.

it went over the trees and i lost site of the helicopter
but i heard it coming back past the trees i saw in going nose down
to the dirt , i managed to recover it yet again .

and as far as crashes i feel like the luckyiest man alive but
i think a recovery is just like a crash and im starting to have to recover the heli to much .

guess its time for me to either take it slower or be more careful when flying in the wind.

is their a safeway to fly when its windy should i fly against the wind ?

the way it went over my head i guess it would have been better to fly with the wind .

and i promise to never fly against mother nature again .

i was beyound scared.

enjoy the vid hope someone else can learn from my mistake.

Watch at YouTube

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02-22-2010 10:50 PM  10 years ago
gundam641

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Best way to fly in the wind is to buy a 700 like i did, or fly that raptor
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02-22-2010 10:58 PM  10 years ago
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^^^ Fly the Raptor.
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02-22-2010 11:01 PM  10 years ago
toolman18

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Ive been following your videos. You are getting better. If the wind is blowing the heli back at you then you must put it farther in front of you or it may blow over your head. I also did that one time. Learned my lesson quick. Be careful and make sure you can recover from any position. Sim practice.
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02-22-2010 11:15 PM  10 years ago
Melnic

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Don't start so much over your head, find a larger area to fly in where you don't risk dumping it in the street and hitting someone. Learn nose in when you can. You won't be disoriented then.
Pull your negative sooner to push yourself into the wind or do a forward flip into the wind.

Tell your cameraman to hold the camera with two hands. Video will be better.
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02-23-2010 03:25 AM  10 years ago
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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gundam641 Best way to fly in the wind is to buy a 700 like i did, or fly that raptor
wow when gundam respond in one of my post i feel like elvis is replying to me, gundam your one of my idles man and will do
i learned a lesson about flying into the wind .

thanks man
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02-23-2010 03:35 AM  10 years ago
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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Ive been following your videos. You are getting better. If the wind is blowing the heli back at you then you must put it farther in front of you or it may blow over your head. I also did that one time. Learned my lesson quick. Be careful and make sure you can recover from any position. Sim practice.
awesome toolman and yes i figured i should have put the heli more out in front of me .

but it looked like the wind and maybe some negative throttle
made the heli look like it was slapped backwards.

but the hole thing was like a nightmare and i want be doing anymore flips in that park .

and geez i dunno how i have been luck enough to recover these helis so many times .

guess gundam mentored me right they hardly ever crashed when we flew on the weekends.

but now i think i just need to go to a really large field so i can have more room to feel the controls.
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02-23-2010 03:43 AM  10 years ago
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Melnic Don't start so much over your head, find a larger area to fly in where you don't risk dumping it in the street and hitting someone. Learn nose in when you can. You won't be disoriented then.
Pull your negative sooner to push yourself into the wind or do a forward flip into the wind.
i was just saying yep its time to find a larger field and i have my 3 helis ready.

9 months at this so far and i hope im doing a better job in 5 more months.

Watch at YouTube

and lol oops that last vid got 92 views already
thanks guys guess i dont have to promise to not flip at the park anymore or high altitude ff.

guess ill start doing nose in hovers until i get more room .

gonna move to vegas soon they have fields every where.
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02-23-2010 03:55 AM  10 years ago
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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Heli 770 ^^^ Fly the Raptor.
one of my new s9252 servos went bad as i was warming up the motor
in the backyard and the glow plug went bad.

i just bought new quick uk 50 boom and glx cf 50 blades
and the 50 belt .

guess the 50 will be easier to fly then the 30 and it will auto better if i get into trouble.

Watch at YouTube

just bought a new 1080p video camera so the vids will look much better soon.

and thank you for watching my videos i kinda was trying to watch my progression and others could see as well just what i went through to
get to be as good as flying as you guys .

its not funny but other new pilots that can actually do circuits and nose in hover but have never flipped are go for it now.

my friend bought a 50 size and he is very good , never seen him flip in his vid until after he saw me flip.

he got cared away and did 3 flips his gyro came off and maiden flight
was the end.

lol he made me take the vid down .
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02-23-2010 10:09 PM  10 years ago
Melnic

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my friend bought a 50 size and he is very good , never seen him flip in his vid until after he saw me flip.

he got cared away and did 3 flips his gyro came off and maiden flight
was the end.

lol he made me take the vid down .
You may want to proof read your posts.
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02-23-2010 10:38 PM  10 years ago
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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Melnic
my friend bought a 50 size and he is very good , never seen him flip in his vid until after he saw me flip.

he got cared away and did 3 flips his gyro came off and maiden flight
was the end.

lol he made me take the vid down .
You may want to proof read your posts.
my bad is was a 500 size .

and what do you mean by proof read ?
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02-23-2010 11:16 PM  10 years ago
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even though the wind was blowing,it looked like too much negative collective was given in the flip.it's better to ask for forgiveness than for permission
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02-24-2010 12:47 AM  10 years ago
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I think you put me on ignore by mistake.

Thanks i knew it was a mistake cause i was just trying to help out.

Looking forward to some nose in video. I know you can do it. I actually practiced with TG until i could do it as well as tail in. Combine it with slow piros and you will be da bomb.
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02-24-2010 01:43 AM  10 years ago
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toolman18 WC,
I wouldnt fly around those kids. Just my 2 sense. If you hit one of them, the parents arent going to be to happy with you, not to mention The kid you hurt will have to live with the scars the rest of there life. Its just not a good idea.
what kids where ? the ones behind the fence that you are magnifying maybe ? by the basketball court ? their behind a double gate

the people i look out for most and fist are anyone man or child that walks onto the field.

if any man woman child soccer player etc come on the field or around the field to even watch my and my heli go in doors.

their was a pilot a very old man with less then 9 months of flight time was trolling me about safety as if he were fire Marshall bill

and besides me and safety the forum members have already drilled me on safety hence why no one but you are trying to make a small deal
about some kids that are not on the field .

and my wife and camera people watch the ground for me when my eyes are in the sky.

the rest of the field is gated all around.

and i try not to fly to high that if my heli does crash i dont want to recover it from someones back yard so i stay low and over the field

thank you for your advice and concern you are a scholar and a gentlemen
trekrider586
My Posts This: Topic Forum even though the wind was blowing,it looked like too much negative collective was given in the flip.
agreed i was thinking i might have done that , right when the wind blow.

but ill never fly against the wind again , that was worse then a roller coaster ride.
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02-24-2010 05:30 AM  10 years ago
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WC, I would not advise others to fly anywhere there are kids any distance close enough where if my heli took off at a downward 45 degree angle that it would hit someone. I myself am rarely at a field other than the Sanctioned flying field or a vacant ball field with NO ONE anywhere near me. You can listen to what people have to say or you can ignore it. Sounds like you are ignoring it. Your flying pretty high in my opinion with your back to a busy street and your a novice pilot. Where you are flying is fine for low altitude hovering and working on your nose in flying, maybe slow figure 8 circuits in a controlled manor. Kinds of manuevers where you can bail out safely but not doing flips. This is my advise until you are more under control and especially not in the wind based on how your videos look so far.

I've seen people flying up above the houses in their neighbor hood as well and I don't think that's a good idea either.

I have hovered in my back yard (back yard up against woods) and done moderate forward flight but not when people are around. I used to hover test in the basement up to 450 sized helis and I have put a stop to that (risk of property damage more than personal safety).

You can listen to the sound experianced advice or you can keep snapping back at people.
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02-24-2010 07:10 AM  10 years ago
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seeing em explode in front of your face due to a part failure gives you a healthy respect for safety, sounds a bit like what I would imagine a grenade would sound like, much louder than a shot gun.

KEBANG!!

EDIT. And then theres the old funky chicken dance which always seems so funny after the actual event, not so much while its happening though.
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02-24-2010 04:23 PM  10 years ago
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Melnic
I'm 47 years old and i know you mean well but you most be much younger then i am because to tell me about kids and safety
kinda of hurts my feelings and it kind of makes me feel as tho you may think i am a dumby as well.

people make mistakes and accident will happen.

bought since is better then told since.

and i would not feel telling someone else that they are not safe
unless they were a really horrible pilot.

and i totally agree with you about altitude , property
novice, and flips .

i think no higher then the trees to my left is a good height
and if I'm in the center of the field at that height i could still flip from their, all thought the last flip scared the living day lights out of me , the next day i flew like this

Watch at YouTube

elkmaster is a troll and is trying his hardiest to use you guys as his tool .

and the problem with that is , one of his tools came to warn me about safety and i know his tools when i see them so i put them on ignore.

the problem with ignoring his tools is one of them was one of my viewer and the viewer messaged me and we figured out what was going on and i saw his post where he put you guys into action.

i was selling some blades and would you will never believe what he did .
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I CAN vouch for WCs credibility,,,,,it is not good. I've seen scam posts on this individual. Don't deal with him!!
same guy that asked you guys to warn me about safety , if he was worried about me being safe why would he post that ?

he has been ignored and is still trying by any means necessary

the whole deal started with his friend he insulted me and so i made the mistake like i may be doing right now and i feed the troll , they both team trolled me for days and got me banned
but me and the owner are good friends and so they unbanned me
since they know that i am a really good man.

and this is the last message that I'm gonna waste typing anything else about this guy and safety elkmaster is a novice his self he has been flying 9 months and if the professionals here did not warn me about safety who does this guy think he is ?

sorry again and i wont be ignoring anybody that tries to warn me about safety due to this old man's ignorance.

and please i hope no one is insulted about anything in my message just trying to be straight up.

hopefully people learn from their mistakes .

you have never seen a video of me flying my heli over civilleons
or property and even tho the altitude looks hi from the camera
most of the time it aint as hi as it looks .

the day i lost control the heli was just above the trees.

i use to try and touch the clouds from that park.

Watch at YouTube

then i asked my self what happens to my investment if a servo fails from 10 storys ? it may land 3 blocks away in someones back yard and bye bye heli .

so i have been flying much lower and after the flip incident
i feel the need to fly just below the trees where i could crash into the fence.

I'm learning fast and thank you for your interest i hope this can all rest now when my accident occurs and my heli is smashed or someones car window is smashed or if someone gets hurt.

I'm the one that's gonna be in a BIG trouble and that my friend
is safety in it self.

seems like the lower i fly my heli is a sign of how much better that I'm getting.

i have done flips punchouts and pyros now side to side
next nosein then I'm going to take her to the field and ripp it up and folks may say where did that guy come from and someone will scream , THATS clown
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02-24-2010 04:45 PM  10 years ago
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I hate to say anything but I would be very careful where you fly. Sounds like you are taking precautions but if you fly long enough something WILL happen with the heli that is out of your control. With people potentially around that have no idea or respect for the thing you are flying a very bad accent can occur...

I had the same attitude where I felt I was safe and always in control. Went out in our residential park (sounds really stupid to me now) to do a quick test hover on a machine to check for shakes. No one outside at all but me and my son who was standing behind me. During the run up I had a mechanical failure that caused the heli to flip back towareds us (it was a 90 BTW). Thank god no one got hurt but it really opened my eyes to how quickly things can go wrong with these machines.

I am not telling you what to do. Just giving you an experience that really opened my eyes to how quickly things can and someday will get out of control.

Good luck with the hobby!! It looks like you are having a really good time!!

BTW - I found it easier to learn with the wind at my back. I never liked having the wind push the heli towards me...

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02-24-2010 05:10 PM  10 years ago
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My Posts This: Topic Forum I hate to say anything but I would be very careful where you fly. Sounds like you are taking precautions but if you fly long enough something WILL happen with the heli that is out of your control. With people potentially around that have no idea or respect for the thing you are flying a very bad accent can occur...

I had the same attitude where I felt I was safe and always in control. Went out in our residential park (sounds really stupid to me now) to do a quick test hover on a machine to check for shakes. No one outside at all but me and my son who was standing behind me. During the run up I had a mechanical failure that caused the heli to flip back towareds us (it was a 90 BTW). Thank god no one got hurt but it really opened my eyes to how quickly things can go wrong with these machines.

I am not telling you what to do. Just giving you an experience that really opened my eyes to how quickly things can and someday will get out of control.

Good luck with the hobby!! It looks like you are having a really good time!!

BTW - I found it easier to learn with the wind at my back. I never liked having the wind push the heli towards me...
rock on man you totally understand and wow .

i had the collective servo fail and it would ony work in one direction
i dunno if it was gonna go up or down by the way it failed
but it was on my 50 i was lucky because my glow plug failed at the sametime

and i know that bought since is better then told since
but i am a cheapo so i hear you .

when you respect and love your vehicle safety is not an issue if you feel me .

and i love my birds their like my friends , killer , thrasher ,
and rappy .

i had really good mentors and i think sometimes that they are always over my shoulder watching me and even helping me recover
my heli when its going down .

10 months zero crashes with my 450's or my rappy
5 recoerys
and 5 malfunctions that resulted in light damage

but thanks for your concern and excellent opinion.

hope im not stepping on anyones shoes , not trying to really really and thanks again and again you rock .

may i add you to my friends list ?
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02-24-2010 06:21 PM  10 years ago
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WC, I comment on other videos I see as well, frequently but not every time.
I'm 44 and I have been flying RC planes since 1989 and RC helicopters since around 1992.

I'm not a youngster, and i'm no NOOB.

It's good that your getting more safe, keep thinking safety for not just yourself but others as well as public & private property.

Working on your hovering skills is a very appropriate type of flying to do in that park IMHO.
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