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02-19-2010 05:43 AM  9 years ago
rexxigpilot

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Help me out here guys. I keep reading that the OP's plan is to charge 6 packs at the same time with one ICharger. How is this done? I have the 208B. Using the balancing board, I can charge up to three 3S packs at once in parallel charging. Is there some other adapter that allows 6 packs to be connected?

BTW, I also agree with the idea of going with the 206 or 208 over the 106. Most new packs can be charged at 4-5C. A 10A charger like the 106B+ is maxed out at less than 5C using 2200mAh packs. It has no headroom charging even a single pack at these high charge rates, which is likely to cause it to fail early. A 20A charger is a much better idea.

Also, many of us, including me, started with a 450 heli and quickly moved up in size. Many larger helis use an 8S or larger setup. The 208 gives the flexibility of using a single 8S pack instead of two 4S packs in series. The extra 50 watts doesn't hurt either.

IMHO, the OP should save $20-30 by not wasting his money on a swash leveling tool (leveling can be done quite sufficiently by eye) and put that money toward the bigger charger.
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02-19-2010 01:17 PM  9 years ago
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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Help me out here guys. I keep reading that the OP's plan is to charge 6 packs at the same time with one ICharger. How is this done?
Go to the Progressive RC website. They have some new wire leads that will allow the charging of 6 batteries at once. They are better than the "old" balance boards. I think David just got them in stock last month.

Series charging = bad idea. I toasted some expensive batteries by hooking them up incorrectly. You have to be extremely careful how you connect them (i.e. connect them in a certain order--main lead battery 1, balance lead battery 1, main lead battery 2, balace lead battery 2, etc) or else you will short them out. By comparison, parallel charging is easy, painless, and so long as your batteries are not extremely different in charge (i.e. one is fully charged and one is fully discharged), it works perfectly.

As for charging 5 batteries at 1C or charging 1 battery at 5C, I think the slower you charge the battery, the less stress you put on the battery and the longer it will last. Even if your car is capable of going 120mph, it won't last as long as if you drive it at 55mph. I don't charge my 5C batteries higher than 2C unless I am in a real hurry. Some will say it doesn't matter because you discharge the battery at 30C, but to each is own. Batteries are expensive, so I try and take good care of them by charging the a little bit slower.

With regards to a swash leveler, this is a critical piece of equipment for my flybarless helis. Without a swash leveler, it is very difficult to get a FBL heli that flies well. But if you're using a regular flybar, then I guess it doesn't matter as much. Also, if all you're doing is hovering, then it doesn't matter either.
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02-19-2010 08:20 PM  9 years ago
Slac

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I ran across this last night searching for tools. Cheap swash leveler tool.

https://rc.runryder.com/t410707p1/?highlight=swash+tool
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02-19-2010 08:51 PM  9 years ago
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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My swash levelers typically cost me $10 to $15 each, and I feel they are worth every penny.Avant RC
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10-13-2010 06:37 PM  9 years ago
deepdiver8055

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I was told that a P350 iCharger Power Supply and a 106B iCharger would charge a 6s 5000 25c Battery in 30 minutes. Does anyone know if this is true? or a bit fudged over?

Let me know your honest opinions please. I'm trying to remain on a tight budget so if this is true then this would be all I need.

Thanks in advance;

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10-13-2010 06:48 PM  9 years ago
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True, at least in principle. A 106B+ will charge a 6s 5000mAh pack at 2C. People usually refer to 2C charging as charging in 30min. Whether your charging will complete in 30min is dependent on several factors including % capacity remaining, condition of pack, etc, but it will usually be close to 30min.

And that PS will power that charger 100%.
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10-13-2010 11:47 PM  9 years ago
rexxigpilot

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It will under certain conditions. If you balance charge and the pack is relatively new with the cells having approx. equal IR, or if you don't balance charge, it will work. However, for about the same money you can get a 206B or 208B which will charge 2 packs in about 30 minutes or 4 packs in an hour usng paralel cables from Progressive RC. If you only plan to use 6S packs, there is no need to waste money on a 10S charger. Pay extra for what you can use like more amperage or wattage.
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