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02-23-2010 11:54 PM  10 years ago
debogus

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Well I have never seen anyone point out a real Rush lie.
When ever that gets brought up they counter with his past pain killer addiction,in a true alinski fashion.
Got me thinking didnt the Holy O admit to smoking pot?
Impeach him we cant have no former dope smoker running our country. LMAO
Right, Rush is only a entertainer ,same as Coulter, but they seem to be held to a higher standard than the lefts version of a president
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02-24-2010 12:51 AM  10 years ago
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Dragon, the issue is she is a liar and EVERYTHING she says needs intense scrutany to prove it one way or the other. You tell me why I should waste my time when there are other people discussing these issues who do not lie regularly. You guys really need to consider the source of this crap, you would be a lot more credible without using a known liar as your source of information.
No, the issue is what she was quoted as saying in the OP, and you're the one that can't seem to address it any sort of rational way.

And who says Coulter is my source of information? The only time I ever see anything from her is when someone posts it here so you're just making wild assumptions.
My whole point all along is that by using her article as the basis of a discussion is dumb to begin with. Pick a credible opinion and discuss that, you will get further. You can't discuss a coulter article without first determining how much her know preferance to tell lies to back up her dumb opinions will effect the topic. in her case, it invalidated everything she says because it is not like she makes mistakes, SHE OUTRIGHT LIES. ergo, can't be trusted, ergo, not worth reading or discussing.
It didn't invalidate anything. You simply can't adress the points raised and have resorted to the age old debating tactic of discrediting the messenger when you can't debate the actual topic at hand. FYI, when you resort to that you've already lost the debate. This is real simple. Prove that what she was quoted as saying in the OP as being wrong or just STFU. You have nothing of value to add to the conversation.
Pointing out the FACT she lies and is a political troll on the otherhand is good as I am sure before this thread, people were not as aware how many times she has been caught trying outright to mislead the public.
No, all you've shown anybody that reads this is that you're incapable of making a rational argument and a complete lightweight when it comes to debating an issue. Your argument may play well with the beer'n bong crowd but it falls flat on its face in the adult world.

Oh and on the "Bush lied, people died" bs, did you know that Saddam admitted, on the record, that he was intentionally bluffing about having and developing WMD's to fool IRAN? It seems he knew about Iran's nuclear program long before we did. (You can thank Wild Bill for decimating our human assets in the region ove rthe previous eight years for that one.) He also said that he miscalculated the U.S. response post 9/11 when he was questioned by the FBI. That story didn't get a lot of mileage with the MSM or the liberal blog-o-sphere because it wasn't what they wanted to hear. It was more convenient to stick with the "Bush lied" crap. Of course you people blame it all on Bush and fail to realize that all presidents act on information presented to them and that our intelligence agencies, along with the intelligence agencies of six other western nations, all came to the conclusion Saddam was up to something. He gambled that we'd do the same thing we'd done for 10 years, nothing. I know that doesn't jibe with what you want to believe so it's probably wasted information with someone like you but I figure I'd throw it out there anyway.
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02-24-2010 04:23 PM  10 years ago
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Dragon, don't mean to poke to big a hole in your story, but if she isn't credible, that is a VERY VALID point to make, even if it is inconvient to you.

Lets take it to the extreme just to make the point clear. When someone goes to court and makes a statment, it is VERY VALID to asertain the credibility of any witnesses, because, you see, people are prone to lying to get what they want.

Courts, when seeking truth, do not focus on the message, they focus on the messenger first, and if the messenger is deemed not credible, the message is tossed out. That is SOP in determining truth.

I get the feeling truth is so far from your mind you haven't even considered it. You are flat out 100% WRONG if you think by questioning the messenger I lose the debate.

Your just fantasizing there pal, If your reputation is that you are a liar, as is coulters, then people do not have to consider a word you say. You can try to validate the liar all you want with false statments regarding questioning credibility but you are just showing us you really don't get it at all.

So Dragon, did you really not know that it is VERY VALID to question a messengers credibility, or you just spinning lies hoping to scare people out of the argument?

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02-24-2010 04:29 PM  10 years ago
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Sure thing smitty. You mean like this statement you just made in another thread:

https://rc.runryder.com/t570455p8/
THC is the only drug the Olympic drug comittee will let slide if you test positive for it after winning a gold. That's because they are not under the same illusions as some here.....

-eSmith
Does that make your words about Coulter less credible?

Yup, sure does.

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02-24-2010 04:35 PM  10 years ago
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Dennis, go look at that thread again, your drunk today arn't you?

You are looking like just as big a fool here now as I showed everyone over there....

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02-24-2010 04:46 PM  10 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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You are looking like just as big a fool here now as I showed everyone over there....
https://rc.runryder.com/t570455p8/?p=4732500#RR

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02-24-2010 05:49 PM  10 years ago
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See, Told you so......

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02-25-2010 04:31 AM  10 years ago
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Dragon, don't mean to poke to big a hole in your story, but if she isn't credible, that is a VERY VALID point to make, even if it is inconvient to you.

Lets take it to the extreme just to make the point clear. When someone goes to court and makes a statment, it is VERY VALID to asertain the credibility of any witnesses, because, you see, people are prone to lying to get what they want.

Courts, when seeking truth, do not focus on the message, they focus on the messenger first, and if the messenger is deemed not credible, the message is tossed out. That is SOP in determining truth.
You are either extremely naive or extremely stupid. It's called discrediting the witness and it has nothing to do with determining the truth. If fact it's a tactic typically used in order to suppress the truth because it would hurt their client.
I get the feeling truth is so far from your mind you haven't even considered it. You are flat out 100% WRONG if you think by questioning the messenger I lose the debate.

Your just fantasizing there pal, If your reputation is that you are a liar, as is coulters, then people do not have to consider a word you say. You can try to validate the liar all you want with false statments regarding questioning credibility but you are just showing us you really don't get it at all.

So Dragon, did you really not know that it is VERY VALID to question a messengers credibility, or you just spinning lies hoping to scare people out of the argument?
And once again all you've done is try to deflect the discussion away from the fact that you can't prove what Coulter said was wrong. Thank you, that's all you had to say. I'll even bet that the reason you resort to this childish tactic is because you haven't even got a clue what she's talking about.

As I said, when it comes to debating a topic in a serious and logical way you're a lightweight. Away with you and your childish whining.
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02-25-2010 02:49 PM  10 years ago
debogus

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Eh?
Discrediting your opponent is a Saul alinski tactic isn't it ?
So with this fact out of the way ,what does the lib say about anything in the article posted ?
Back on the topic at hand or go start your own anti coulter topic .

Lets have a open discussion on any thing at the start of the post disregarding who the author is.
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02-25-2010 05:24 PM  10 years ago
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Dragon your a stupid dummy, if a witness isn't credible, like coulter is proven herself to be, then it IS VALID to point it out, only a child like yourself crys like you are doing when you can't leave out a very important fact like "she's full of $hit" because it doesn't suit you. fool.

Now, dummy, look back, and you might notice that you missed me pointing out the big flaw in the article, which again for your feeble mind is that she herself is owned, as is every person in politics. The flaw is she is pretending she isn;t just as owned and that all of the republicans are also owned, as is everyone in washington.

And whoever she would perfer in the presidency will also be owned but you won't get the same article out of her if she happy about who is in charge, so she is a hypocrite, which I have been pointing out, she can't be trusted, and your too big an idiot to have picked up on that because you really don't see or understand anything your don't like. idiot.

Debogus, the topis is about Obama "being owned" show me a person in politics other than Jessie Ventura that isn't? Couklter is also owned and this article is all pot to kettle, your black, ergo, it isn't credible.

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02-25-2010 05:44 PM  10 years ago
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All from the above post by smitty:
Dragon your a stupid dummy
"she's full of $hit"
it doesn't suit you. fool.
Now, dummy, look back
for your feeble mind
your too big an idiot
anything your don't like. idiot.
Thats taken from just 3 paragraphs of smitty's typing.

You simply can't make this stuff up folks.

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02-25-2010 06:08 PM  10 years ago
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Should get his attention huh.

Dumbis,

Since it bugs you so much why not go tattle to Mark about it loser.

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02-25-2010 06:13 PM  10 years ago
Dennis (RIP)

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Since it bugs you so much why not go tattle to Mark about it loser.
Why should I do that?

This is fun.

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02-25-2010 10:13 PM  10 years ago
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More liberal hate speach. They always are guilty of what they blame others of doing!
The more you expose the truth about them, the more vitriol you will have to withstand.
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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02-25-2010 10:45 PM  10 years ago
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Right Baby, your all about exposing truth. I'd be interested in where you invented that, you don't know me, never will and all the liberal BS exists only in your head.

Do you really just think anyone who doesn't agree with you is a liberal?

In my world pal, your be crying for liberal policy.

How old are you seriously?

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02-26-2010 01:53 AM  10 years ago
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Old enough to recognize when someone is spouting the same old liberal BS about how anyone on the conservative side is lying, just because you don't agree with them!
Your personal attacks are getting as tiresome as listening to a child asking the same question over and over again hoping for a different answer.
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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02-26-2010 02:38 AM  10 years ago
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Your personal attacks are getting as tiresome as listening to a child asking the same question over and over again hoping for a different answer
Kinda reminds you of another lib that dont come in here no more dont it.
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02-26-2010 02:46 AM  10 years ago
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Your personal attacks are getting as tiresome as listening to a child asking the same question over and over again hoping for a different answer.
From another thread:
All from the above post by smitty:

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Dragon your a stupid dummy
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"she's full of $hit"

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it doesn't suit you. fool.

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Now, dummy, look back
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for your feeble mind

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your too big an idiot

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anything your don't like. idiot.

Thats taken from just 3 paragraphs of smitty's typing.

You simply can't make this stuff up folks.
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02-26-2010 04:03 AM  10 years ago
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Eh?smith ,

Did I miss out on your rant ?
Post the link number,I find it really hard to understand any of your post( mostly because I just don't read your ON and ON stuff)
Also you tend to use standard alinsky tactics which pretty much dicredits everything you say. ( just because some dude wrote a book of tactics doesn't mean it will work )
But go ahead and post it so I can review your response see if it was valid ,then I'll get back to you eh?( sorry the last part is all the Canadian I know)
Probably just your interpretation of the facts.
So you say you posted one ? Dam that was a long article ,one ?
IF she was as big a liar as you say, there should have been more.
Mostly I found stuff that was true and I had already read elsewhere.
( you see alot of it, this administration is proud of and post on their own sites)
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02-26-2010 04:29 PM  10 years ago
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Debogus, you don't read my stuff but your in a panic to see what I wrote and want me to either repost it or direct you to it???

Ask Dumbis, he h a crush on me and prolly has all my posts printed out and made a shrine out of them in his room at his moms house.

Still a kid huh Baby, Did you get the handle because thats what mommy calls you when she tucks you in?

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