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02-07-2010 07:10 PM  8 years agoPost 1
NTM

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Where are those sattelite recievers Futaba ?
I'm on the verge of switching to spektrum, rather than going with the 8fg. Almost all the newer flybarless systems use sattelites, in my case, the v-bar.
It drives me nuts how futaba drags their feet on this kind of stuff.

Anybody else in the same boat ?

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02-07-2010 10:30 PM  8 years agoPost 2
tjrhodes01

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they dont need sattelites dual antenna diversity is diff from dsm

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02-08-2010 12:17 AM  8 years agoPost 3
M`honri

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"Drags their feet" huh?
LOL! don't get me started

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02-08-2010 05:21 AM  8 years agoPost 4
NTM

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they dont need sattelites dual antenna diversity is diff from dsm
Huh ?
The sattelite recievers allow you run the rf signal straight into a flybarless unit without half a dozen or more jumpers from the reciever to the v-bar.
Really cleans up the wiring and eliminates failure points.

Apparently the coding is already in the futaba fasst firmware to support them, it's just a matter of them manufacturing them.
They're going to miss out on a very large share of the market as more and more people are going flybarless.

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02-08-2010 09:01 AM  8 years agoPost 5
OICU812

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I agree Nathan, it absolutely BOGGLES me to death why they have not got this solution for all the new integration stuff!! Like cmon Futaba!!!

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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02-08-2010 01:04 PM  8 years agoPost 6
hornet dave

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oh the irony. futaba is having to produce a product to compete with spektrum's band-aid afterthought.

I got a fever! The only prescription is MORE 6HV

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02-08-2010 01:31 PM  8 years agoPost 7
DougV

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NTM, are you talking about this? https://rc.runryder.com/t548815p1/

Doug.

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02-08-2010 01:37 PM  8 years agoPost 8
DougV

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oh the irony. futaba is having to produce a product to compete with spektrum's band-aid afterthought.
No FASST don't need the extra remote antennas/Remote receivers or now satellites or whatever names you want to use today for the receiver RF antennas.

Doug.

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02-08-2010 01:40 PM  8 years agoPost 9
Smok

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Probably Futaba will release satellites well before Spektrum/JR resolves the lockup/shootdown issue

[Edit: the above was supposed to be a joke, it seems to me now that it might have been unclear to some readers ]

But now I can imagine a Radio Controlled Christmas Tree, with all these Spektrum satellites hanging on it - and all blinking their diodes

[Edit: to be 100% clear, this is a joke too ]

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02-08-2010 01:43 PM  8 years agoPost 10
Smok

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...now just waiting for a flock of posts in which EVERYONE fully AGREES that Futaba is "dragging their feet, stays behind, lacks innovation" and what not...

Are we having the weekly ( or bi-weekly ) mud-slinging contest here again ?

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02-08-2010 01:46 PM  8 years agoPost 11
Smok

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In my previous post I might have forgotten about those BOGGLED posters

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02-08-2010 02:30 PM  8 years agoPost 12
baby_zyklon

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The weight of running two satelites vs a small 617fs is not that different. Also, while you remove 4 short cables from the rx to the fbl unit, you also add two longer wires to the satelites. Is there any advantage I am missing?

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02-08-2010 04:10 PM  8 years agoPost 13
JetFire

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Probably Futaba will release satellites well before Spektrum/JR resolves the lockup/shootdown issue
Now thats pretty funny. . With all jokes aside, even the lower end Futabas have a timer while JR is just discovering how important that feature is to some of us and just released and implemented it on the new 9503. Guess the aluminum casing makes up for all that. So.. Futaba isn't all that far behind. . In all honesty, I was in the market for a new radio and just about purchased this radio myself. My choices were the ATX 10G, X9503, A9 and the 8FG so as you can clearly see I wasn't being brand specific. Without going totally off topic, and highjacking this thread, I was quite disappointed that they stuck with the average latency rating and just added a backlight and timer while Futaba is packing you with two additional channels on whats suppose to be an 8ch radio and making it faster while introducing a new feature of the sensor touch pad. Behind you say? Well, that just depends on what your talking about. I'm not knocking any brand down because they all have there strength and weaknesses and really boils down too what you want. If you want satellites, then Futaba just lost a customer. However, they just gained one back because I now have the 8FG and couldn't be happier.


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02-08-2010 05:36 PM  8 years agoPost 14
Turkana

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... and do not forgett the kill switch Futaba radios have. Most others don't.

Regards Pete

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02-08-2010 05:48 PM  8 years agoPost 15
Smok

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Btw. the upcoming 6108SB 2.6G FASST receiver has eight regular servo sockets and supports normal or high speed mode on the first six channels - so matches these 6008HS features. On top of that - it has an SBUS connector - which can connect to SBUS-compliant servos, or to regular servos (via PWM adapter) and also to V-bar and Helicommand HC3X. I am also seeing that the SB cables, adapters and other stuff start to show up in some German online shops, I guess not in stock yet...

So it should quite soon allow to run a single cable to a vbar - even without the need to add any satellites, auxiliary antennas and all that...

Even now, if needed, or for any other reason one could have one FASST RX to drive some servos and another RX plugged directly to Vbar, for the remaining channels... Afaik, you can pair more than one Rx to the Tx and have both RXs switched on and working at the same time, only you can't pair one Rx to more than one Tx (at any given time, that is)... I do not see why someone would do that on a heli, but some large scale plane guys are running dual receivers for an added redundancy.

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02-08-2010 10:27 PM  8 years agoPost 16
Rick_H

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I remember when XPS came out with their single antenna receivers and got slammed by everyone saying 2.4GHz must have multiple antenna's due to shadowing. Then Futaba came out with the FASST System without satellite antenna's and it was innovation that they did not need satellite antenna's. Now customers are demanding satellite antenna's?

Got to Love this Hobby.

Rick

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02-08-2010 10:40 PM  8 years agoPost 17
eggmcmuffinplz

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Hmmmm,

I saw the words
v-bar
and
flybarless
I think most of the responses are way off base. I think NTM's point is not that he thinks Futaba should use satellites on their rx's, but to have them available to use the satellite(s) for FBL systems-VBar. Plus, since all of the responses ive read support not using a satellite, does that mean there would only have to be one satellite...er remote, for Futaba? Just a thought.

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02-08-2010 11:33 PM  8 years agoPost 18
Smok

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Hi Scott, I think there are two issues replied to here - Futaba FASST does not need satellites to aid in signal reception - and also V-bar (and the new Helicommand) will be supporting SBUS - so instead of using a satellite you would just run an SBUS cable directly to the flybarless unit, once the Rx supporting SBUS become available ( they started to show up already at Robbe site, not sure about Japan ).

I do not think that the replies here are off base, especially given that a couple of initial posts were rather kind of pushy towards Futaba, imho.

Still I am not sure what did you want to say with "does that mean there would only have to be one satellite...er remote, for Futaba?" I think nobody said that there have to be a satellite, whether on Vbar or in the sky

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02-09-2010 01:42 AM  8 years agoPost 19
irwinfc

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Now thats pretty funny. . With all jokes aside, even the lower end Futabas have a timer while JR is just discovering how important that feature is to some of us and just released and implemented it on the new 9503. Guess the aluminum casing makes up for all that. So.. Futaba isn't all that far behind. . In all honesty, I was in the market for a new radio and just about purchased this radio myself. My choices were the ATX 10G, X9503, A9 and the 8FG so as you can clearly see I wasn't being brand specific. Without going totally off topic, and highjacking this thread, I was quite disappointed that they stuck with the average latency rating and just added a backlight and timer while Futaba is packing you with two additional channels on whats suppose to be an 8ch radio and making it faster while introducing a new feature of the sensor touch pad. Behind you say? Well, that just depends on what your talking about. I'm not knocking any brand down because they all have there strength and weaknesses and really boils down too what you want. If you want satellites, then Futaba just lost a customer. However, they just gained one back because I now have the 8FG and couldn't be happier.
this ought to shoot the "other brand" guys here. nice shooting Jetfire!

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02-09-2010 02:24 AM  8 years agoPost 20
OICU812

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Seems some are being brand defensive here and misinterpreting the posters comments. NTM uses and likes Futaba guys I like Futaba as well it is only frustrating to see them lag in catching up with everyone on the latest units that require remote rx etc is all, cheers.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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