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02-06-2010 09:23 AM  8 years agoPost 1
shawmcky

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A friend gave me a trainer kit complete with engine,it is a top wing style trainer with plenty of dihedral,it is called a "Prangster"and is supposed to be pretty near indestructable.Having never flown an RC plane only on simulators(which make it seem relatively easy)how are these things to fly,i have built the kit but have not yet had the ba*ls to fly it.Any advice for a first time flyer much appreciated.Just thought might make a change to have a plane as well.

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02-06-2010 09:59 AM  8 years agoPost 2
BEAR

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How good are you with a heli? If you can fly fig 8s and nose in you wont find a plank too hard to fly only landing is a bit of an event till you get used to getting landing speed and hight right

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02-06-2010 10:32 AM  8 years agoPost 3
shawmcky

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First time plank
I can fly a heli in all orientations well enough,i guess the take off/ landing will take the most concentration.This plane has a big motor for its size so i guess it will take off in a short distance??

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02-06-2010 10:53 AM  8 years agoPost 4
nivlek

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Take off should be straight forward , just make sure that you are into the wind and have enough flying speed before you lift off , and climb out at a shallow angle , don't try to haul it into the air . Is it a tail dragger or a nose wheeler , and what sort of surface do you fly off ?

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02-06-2010 11:21 AM  8 years agoPost 5
shawmcky

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Plank
Its a taildragger,with a 132cm wingspan about 1.8kg.I fly off short grass normally.It has 10mm up down throws on aileron,15mm up down on elevator,25mm on the tail,i would like to keep it soft as far as movement for a while.Looks pretty tough(and ugly)

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02-06-2010 12:11 PM  8 years agoPost 6
DougsRC

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can fly a heli in all orientations well enough,i guess the take off/ landing will take the most concentration.
You shouldn't have any problem at all, and your right, real good landings take some practice.

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02-06-2010 12:25 PM  8 years agoPost 7
FenwayRick

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Don't land until you are out of fuel, that way you will have experienced at least a whole tank full before wreaking. JK you should be fine the sim is your friend and flying helis will help for sure.

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02-06-2010 12:49 PM  8 years agoPost 8
nivlek

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Oversized wheels help when taking off from, and landing on , grass . When you initially apply power , a tail dragger can nose over , more so in grass and smaller wheels dig in more . You may need to hold in full up elevator as you apply power but only until the model starts to move , then you need to back off the elevator to allow the tail to rise to reduce the wings angle of attack as the speed increases , or you risk taking off before you have enough flying speed to stay airbourne . If the surface is rough , you can get 'bounced' in to the air , so be sure to ready on the sticks .

As for engine tunning , it is the normal procedure to hold the model with the nose pointing vertically upwards while on full throttle to make sure that the engine doesn't go lean while flying . If you tune for maximum power with the nose held vertically , then richen it by three clicks , you should be good to go .

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02-06-2010 01:19 PM  8 years agoPost 9
shawmcky

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Cheers guys
I am taking in this advice,never thought much about the tuning side ,but that makes a lot of sense,will check that out.

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02-06-2010 02:58 PM  8 years agoPost 10
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Where can I get more info on that plane? I fly planes and I teach alot of my friends and family and this looks like it might be a good first plane for a first time pilot.

EDIT: never mind I did a search on google and found some more info.

and the blonde said "RECTUM, Hell damn near killed em!!"

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02-06-2010 03:04 PM  8 years agoPost 11
SSN Pru

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if you can fly a heli, you can fly a plank. It doesn't work the other way around.

take-off is easy with a trainer. Apply power and slight up elevator and off you go.

landing is a bit more difficult although still quite easy. Just establish a nice slow straight and stable glide slope into the runway and allow the plane to touch down. Don't steer it into the ground like a lot of plank drivers do.

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02-06-2010 03:19 PM  8 years agoPost 12
shawmcky

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JPerkins Prangster
There are several videos on You tube of this plane being abused on purpose and it seems to live up to its name very well.Made for complete novices like me

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02-07-2010 07:57 AM  8 years agoPost 13
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Any advice for a first time flyer much appreciated.
I also started with helis and later added planks. Only problem I had was getting over the habit of pulling back on the 'collective' while inverted.

In the beginning, rudder on planks is mostly for preventing yaw on take-offs and steering while taxiing. You won't hardly need it in the air. Mostly you'll just bank & yank (aileron & elevator) for turns. After you get your 'plank legs' you'll find more uses for rudder like knife edges, hovering and torque-rolling, etc.
the take off/ landing will take the most concentration.
allow the plane to touch down. Don't steer it into the ground
Zackly.

Best advice I got on landings was while getting my full-size ticket: You don't really land a plank. After setting up on final and throttling back, you glide 'em to about a foot off the runway, then hold 'em there until they land themselves.

And when the time is ripe, get yourself a couple variable-pitch foamies to fart around with. They're the most fun you can have in RC outside of helis IMO.

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02-07-2010 11:48 AM  8 years agoPost 14
nivlek

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Most of this will be a little too basic for you , but it's worth having a look at 'Up and Away ' , on the BMFA website .
There is a link to download it near the bottom of this page :
http://www.bmfa.org/publications/index.html

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02-07-2010 01:56 PM  8 years agoPost 15
SSN Pru

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You won't hardly need it in the air. Mostly you'll just bank & yank (aileron & elevator) for turns
When taking dual instruction several years ago from my father, he told me the rudder was the most important control surface on a airplane. I took that advice to heart when learning to fly RC airplanes.

I never fell into the trap of stalling and spiraling into the ground or loosing control because I DIDN'T know how to use the rudder. I learned planks LONG before heli's and I believe that my already well trained left thumb helped me learn to fly helicopters using my xcell 60 sport without a single crash.

I would suggest that, as a plank pilot, you embrace all of your controls. Too many plank pilots think that the rudder is only used to align your plank for take off and to taxi back to the pit after the flight. Many plankers only touch the left stick twice. Once to advance the throttle forward for takeoff and once to decrease it for landing.

It is true that you can 'yank and bank' but that is not how an airplane should be flown. The best pilots use all of their controls.

The funniest thing in the world is a guy at our club who LOVES WWI biplanes - big ones. He would slam the throttle foward and fight the thing to take off. Then he would perform a somewhat steep climbout with one wing low trying to correcting for the yaw with the ailerons.

My father always called him the best chinese pilot he's ever seen - wonwing lo.

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02-07-2010 06:03 PM  8 years agoPost 16
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ROTFLMAO....thats a good one

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02-07-2010 06:46 PM  8 years agoPost 17
shawmcky

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Must admit
It feels harder and a bit alien to fly a plane without using full controls on a sim.Maybe its because i am used to full control with a heli,i prefer to fly heli,s in normal mode rather than heading hold for some reason.

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02-07-2010 09:55 PM  8 years agoPost 18
SSN Pru

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prefer to fly heli,s in normal mode rather than heading hold for some reason.
Nothing wrong with that. I learned to fly helis on an xcell .60 sport I built in 2000. It had a Futaba Mechanical gyro on it. Never crashed it either!

Already having the habits ingrained in you to use both thumbs all the time will serve you well when it comes to planks.

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02-08-2010 01:00 AM  8 years agoPost 19
Harshflyer

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Biggest mistake is see with new planker pilots, myself included,
PULL BACK THE POWER AFTER TAKEOFF. So many new pilots crash very early in the first flight, because they were going Mach 1.

Rotate, altitude, pull back the power.

Still asking why

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02-08-2010 01:41 AM  8 years agoPost 20
RayJayJohnsonJr

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shawmcky, you'll probably get along just fine with the plane your friend gave you. But I've always found that a trainer that's designed to fly will generally crash less than one that's designed to crash.

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