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02-05-2010 09:58 PM  8 years agoPost 1
buster1

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Manhattan, NY

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Hi, I am looking to upgrade my 5003d,

I have one of the original setups up with Jazz controller and older motor.

I am also flying with rotortech 560 blades which are great.

What would be the best all around setup these days if I go to flybarless?

1. Motor
2. ESC
3. Blades
4. Pinion Siz?
4. Would like to get the new carbon frame - anyone know when that is coming out.

Any suggestions would be great,
Thanks,
Jeff

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02-05-2010 10:26 PM  8 years agoPost 2
clayboy

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phuket thailand

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i used scorpion 4020 1100 and a jive 100lv 15t 0.7 6s 5000 mah worked grate for me .
nice performance and flight time. 4025 1100 if u fly hard but cost of flight time

i started with nothing and still got most of it left

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02-05-2010 10:51 PM  8 years agoPost 3
buster1

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thanks, do you need a heat sink with the Jive.
And is the Jive easy to set up?
Thanks,
Jeff

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02-05-2010 11:13 PM  8 years agoPost 4
clayboy

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phuket thailand

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jive is plug and play. and simply awsome,pricy but for me worth the money. bec very good as well. maybe the new replacement for jazz could be an option as well but jive is out now a few years and pretty bullet proof

heat sink on the 100lv i think its not needed. i had mine in spain this summer in 37c heat no problem but i guess it would not hurt

i started with nothing and still got most of it left

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02-06-2010 12:48 AM  8 years agoPost 5
Greybird

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Davie, Florida

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Look at an Xera motor. Scorpions run too hot, eat up too much power, and have those bearing issues. If you are going to upgrade, I would want better than Scorpion. I had 2 flights on a 4020-1100 and gave it away.

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02-06-2010 09:43 AM  8 years agoPost 6
helicraze

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Victoria - Australia

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Re the xera I PM CNC over 1 month ago and also on his website the contact page does not work and even the back in stock email bounces and i get an error email from his site as for months none of them seem to be in stock.

Would like to get the xera motor but it seems impossible.

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02-06-2010 05:34 PM  8 years agoPost 7
NTM

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Lloydminster, Alberta, Canada

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I've got the xera 4025-1000, the scorpion 4020-1100, and the scorpion 4025-1100. All running 2300 rpm on 560mm blades with a jive 100LV.

I like the scorpion 4020-1100 on a 15 tooth with 35c packs myself, it has the best mix of flight time and power. 5.2 minutes of hard 3d.

The xera is decent, but the scorp 4020 puts out the same power with less amp draw on good packs. Under five minutes of flight time (with my flying style). Once you factor in the added expense of the motor, well...

The scorpion 4025-1100 has the most power, but it doesn't really show on 550mm blades, only on 600mm blades, and it gets the shortest flight times. 4.5 minutes for me on a 15 toooth.

As for the bearings in the scorpions, I've only ever had one set fail on me in the 40 series motors, and that was because I ran the pinion mesh way too tight by accident. I've probably got over 400 flights on the scorpion 4020 and 4025.
They're a common sized bearing, and literally took five minutes to change out with no speciallized tools.
It's not an issue.

Regards,
Nathan

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