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02-05-2010 05:56 AM  8 years agoPost 21
SuperSixTwo

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A kill switch I'm talking about is physical hard wired switch that disengage power to fuel pump and ignition system from the battery.
Fat load of good that would do in eletric mode!

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02-05-2010 09:09 AM  8 years agoPost 22
max232

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Quit buying toyota!!! Buy American

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02-05-2010 11:26 AM  8 years agoPost 23
cfranks

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Has anyone tried turning off the ignition while driving? I did once and promptly lost the power assist to brakes and steering. Oops!

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02-05-2010 11:48 AM  8 years agoPost 24
shawmcky

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Geez
I bet they will be using fly by wire planes next,something else to worry about at 30,000 ft.Last time you jump started your car,are you now worried about what a power surge might do to your electronics,what if you momentarily connect the leads up wrong?All this sophistication will probably end up in expensive tears now and in the future and not just for the manufacturers.And when you start to outsource big problems can sometimes occur.(ask a Mercedes owner)

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02-05-2010 12:10 PM  8 years agoPost 25
SSN Pru

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I realize many cars have push button ignition. Many Nissans do.

So, let me ask you this. If you have a push button to start, how do you stop the engine? Maybe, push it to stop too?

EDIT:
the fail safe switch is the power button, if you hold it for 3 seconds the engine will shut down while in drive.
There you go...

ZAW,

You aren't ever satisfied and have to be right huh?

If you don't like the idea of turning the ignition off to stop a run away vehicle, will you settle for putting it in neutral?

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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02-05-2010 12:22 PM  8 years agoPost 26
shawmcky

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The truth is
I expect a lot of people dont have the mechanical savvy or just panic in this situation,shifting a manual to neutral is one thing,an auto can mean a shift to reverse or park unless you are very careful.Besides your clever electronic car would probably tell you"naughty,naughty,naughty,you know you can,t shift to neutral whilst on the move,you will damage your auto transmission"

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02-05-2010 12:24 PM  8 years agoPost 27
SSN Pru

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yep,

I bet the majority of them DO panic.

the majority of people panic when ANY out of control and dangerous situation is presented to them.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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02-05-2010 05:17 PM  8 years agoPost 28
EvoFlight50

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I realize many cars have push button ignition. Many Nissans do.

So, let me ask you this. If you have a push button to start, how do you stop the engine? Maybe, push it to stop too?
Three seconds is a hell of a long time to wait if your brakes failed or your accelerator is stuck. This has nothing to do about panic. Do you realize how far you travel in 3 seconds going 50mph? I'd prefer a kill switch/button that will cut power immediately.

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02-05-2010 05:44 PM  8 years agoPost 29
Isaac F

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Check this video were they show you what to do in case of a sudden acceleration. Check at the end of the video, you will see that they try also a VW Jetta and it have a safety feature that if you press the brake pedal this overide/cancel the acelerator. I really dont undertand why Toyota never come with a safety feature like that?
I am pretty sure now they going to copy it.

Isaac

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/ca...us-ford-gm.html

Watch at YouTube

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02-05-2010 05:57 PM  8 years agoPost 30
shawmcky

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Panic
I remember a good few years ago carrying out an annual inspection on a Rolls-Royce Silver Spur,I had it running on the car lift with the drivers door open(right hand drive)i went to carry out a power steering check and my hand brushed the column mounted transmission lever and it went into reverse,i was outside the car one foot in the car hopping on the other(the revs picked up went it went into reverse via the idle speed control valve)I grabbed the roof gutter rail and shot the hopping foot in the car and hit the brake two feet short of the lift corner post.I still shudder to this day thinking what if i had missed that brake and hit the gas pedal and got sandwiched between the door and the corner post by a 2tonne car.Turns out when i spoke to the owner that he had broken the locking pawl(he was a big guy)trying to shift it out of park one day,the slightest brush would shift the transmission.He had parked the car on the lift but neglected to mention this fault.I shook for the rest of the day just thinking how lucky i had been.

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02-05-2010 06:06 PM  8 years agoPost 31
shawmcky

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That video
dont panic,just read the manual

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02-05-2010 06:08 PM  8 years agoPost 32
SSN Pru

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This has nothing to do about panic. Do you realize how far you travel in 3 seconds going 50mph?
if you are already doing 50 and you have a need for immediate power cutoff then cutting the power immediately or in 3 seconds won't ammount to much.
I'd prefer a kill switch/button that will cut power immediately.
then i'm sure you'd also like some brakes that stop your vehicle immediately from 50mph too?

like I said, it's easy to shift a vehicle into neutral and let the engine do whatever it wants.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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02-05-2010 06:48 PM  8 years agoPost 33
EvoFlight50

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if you are already doing 50 and you have a need for immediate power cutoff then cutting the power immediately or in 3 seconds won't ammount to much.
then i'm sure you'd also like some brakes that stop your vehicle immediately from 50mph too?

like I said, it's easy to shift a vehicle into neutral and let the engine do whatever it wants.
Sounds like you're the one who is never satisfied and has to be right. You think 3 seconds won't make a difference? Get your car up to fifty, wait three seconds and hit the brakes, then do it again hitting the brakes three seconds earlier and see how much earlier you stopped. Could mean the difference of flying through and intersection or not. You'll probably end up stopped somewhere around where you just started to brake in the first example.

I'd prefer a kill switch as opposed to pounding it into neutral with a stuck accelerator.

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02-05-2010 07:11 PM  8 years agoPost 34
SSN Pru

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Sounds like you're the one who is never satisfied and has to be right
the irony is killing me.

you can fight for your kill switch, i'll be happy to save my own bacon with what's already in cars.

FWIW,

The 2010 Nissan Maxima's push button ignition will shut the engine off if the button is depressed 3 consecutive times or is held down for more than 2 seconds.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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02-05-2010 07:23 PM  8 years agoPost 35
Dennis (RIP)

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I don't care myself. I drive a ford. 1996, 5.0 litre engine, 135,000 miles and still going strong.

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02-05-2010 08:15 PM  8 years agoPost 36
BLUETHUNDER

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TOYOTA should install Rusian Jet Ejection seats on all models
maybe do this during the recall when you take your car in.

Hey it worked for James Bond 007 why not TOYOTA?

Watch at YouTube

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02-05-2010 10:32 PM  8 years agoPost 37
SuperSixTwo

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install Rusian Jet Ejection seats
Now thats funny!

These cars have good airbag systems anyway. I'll wear the seat belt and take my chance!
I need a good burn from hot gas anyway.

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02-05-2010 11:11 PM  8 years agoPost 38
hanzuki

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You guys are rediculous!!! The push button ignition is not a problem and almost all new cars have it. Hold the button, engine shuts off, no matter what. Gas pedal gets stuck, put in neutral! The prius brakes work fine! Its the hybrid regenerative brakes and they have no effect on the hydraulic service brakes and it only happens on bumpy or slippery roads. A simple recalibration is all that is needed.

Reminds me of a customer I had today who came in about the accelerator pedal recall all upset cause the lady on the radio said her vehicle was a death trap. She was driving a Tacoma which has no recalls on it what soever, not even included in the recent pedal recall! But the lady on the radio said!

Oh, and you cant go from drive to reverse unless you actually push the button on the shifter, or pull on the lever toward you on a column shift. Try if you dont believe me.

Sheep

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02-05-2010 11:12 PM  8 years agoPost 39
zaw

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What do you with your heli when you know you're about to crash it? Cut the power off and hope for the best.

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02-05-2010 11:38 PM  8 years agoPost 40
EvoFlight50

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the irony is killing me.

you can fight for your kill switch, i'll be happy to save my own bacon with what's already in cars.

FWIW,

The 2010 Nissan Maxima's push button ignition will shut the engine off if the button is depressed 3 consecutive times or is held down for more than 2 seconds.
I'm not fighting for anything. Unfortunately I'd say the majority of the people on the road don't know anything about how a car operates and would not know to throw it in neutral if the accelerator gets stuck. I'd also be willing to bet 90% of the people who have cars with push button ignition don't know if you hold it down for 3 seconds it will shut the car off. For people who are mechanically inclined this is obvious stuff to do.

This can easily be seen by the guy who decided to call 911 when his accelerator got stuck and drove right into the intersection going 120mph, killing himself, and his passenger.

My oppinion is with all these new cars that are basically a driving computer, they should just have a safety button. If something on the car fails, you just press it and the car powers down. I'm sure if this type of button was installed it would have saved the lives that were lost in the above example. I'm not worried about what would happen to me in one of those cars because I would know what to do, I'm worried about the other guy that has no clue, and decides to call 911 instead of throwing it in neutral.

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