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02-04-2010 04:31 PM  8 years agoPost 21
Bundian

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Fort Lauderdale, FL USA

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My vote is still on the sim
Tweak that thing so it will be same or even harder to fly than in real life. (i usually reduce the engine power on the sim to get better collective managment)
Practice all the moves you want like crazy on the sim, once you are comfortable, go out and try it.

Fly it like you stole it!!!

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02-04-2010 04:38 PM  8 years agoPost 22
rotormonkey

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+1 sillyness. I couldn't have said it better myself. I agree 100% with that sentiment.

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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02-04-2010 04:50 PM  8 years agoPost 23
VooDooX

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[SIM SIM SIM SIM SIM...anddd SIM. i have been flying about a year and a half now. i can do forward or reverse flight in any orientation upright or inverted with figure 8's in all orientations and directions, stall turns, funnels both upright and inverted, tic tocs in nose up nose right and nose down (workin on nose left),hurricanes, Snakes, piro hovers, piro flips, and chaos..yes i can do chaos on the sim haven't tried in real life and i mean a TRUE chaos where the axis rotates as well ask anyone whos seen me on pheonix online will vouch. anyways working on pirofunnels and piro globes now im telling you the answer is the SIM. please listen to me lol. countless hours of sim i find going online and listening to techno music with beats you can sync moves to the rhythm with help ALOt because online you can talk to people and its not at tedious. its kinda like going to the field. i have probably spent about 5-7 hours a week during those 1.5 years learning on the sim. so im telling you man up and get on the sim and stop seeing it as a pain in the ass and start seeing it as fun and you will succeed.

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02-04-2010 04:59 PM  8 years agoPost 24
Bundian

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VooDooX stop talkin about the sim you're slacking lately!
I havent seen your Chinook flying around like crazy for a long time now!
Or you just hiding from me?

Andrew

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02-04-2010 05:12 PM  8 years agoPost 25
JasonJ

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North Idaho

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+100 on having a beater helicopter. My 450 gets traumatized. I absolutely do not care if it crashes, and I haven't crashed since sometimes last fall and that was just a hard landing in weeds.

Also, good point on actual flight time verses time in months or years. Last summer I sat down and calculated an approximation of how long I had been flying since spring 07, and it came out to be about 40 hours real flight and about 80 hours of sim. That isn't a lot of time so I felt good about being able to do the basics. Loops, flips, rolls, all upright orientations, FFF. I broke the inverted barrier on 2 Jan of this year with controlled inverted hovering in real life, something that proved to be elusive last year. I could do it all day on the sim, but real life not so much.

My biggest obstacle is time. I end up only flying a session or two a week or less due to weather or work. If I could fly every day I am sure I would be much farther along, but I am fine with it. It's a hobby, I am never going to compete. I also have no real aspirations, I am just happy flying and if I learn something new to baffle the plankers at the club field, then even better.

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02-04-2010 05:14 PM  8 years agoPost 26
VooDooX

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VooDooX stop talkin about the sim you're slacking lately!
I havent seen your Chinook flying around like crazy for a long time now!
prolly hiding haha i changed my work shift so probably get on at different times now although i still throw the 3d chinook around then see like 3 people spectate so i know there watching me haha

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02-04-2010 05:15 PM  8 years agoPost 27
VooDooX

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and it came out to be about 40 hours real flight and about 80 hours of sim
i calculated mine at about 600 hours on the sim 20 hours real flying in a year and a half haha

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02-04-2010 07:35 PM  8 years agoPost 28
DustinB

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Damn that is a lot of flying! Average of 1.095 hours per day or 25 full days straight. I can't keep myself on the sim more than 20-30min at a time once or twice a week. Might have to try online, not many people on real flight though. I take it you fly phoenix? Many online people there?

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02-05-2010 12:57 AM  8 years agoPost 29
bricktop

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thanks guys
sounds like i need to beat on the sim like i have been. the sim is a great thing. i just didn't know if there was some trick to timing but like everyone else i'm having a blast with these helis. i definitly have a SUPER PASSION for this hobby. it eats up every spare moment of my life.

I didn't say you did it...I said I was blaming you.

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02-05-2010 01:46 AM  8 years agoPost 30
Yug

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We all have different levels of natural ability. I wasn't blessed with much so it took a couple of years before piro manouvers, but then I am a middle aged old git so learning is slow. However, an aspect I love about this hobby is its multitude of facets. One could be content with an ARTF and concentrating on hardcore flight profiles; one could be experimenting diligently with setups and flybar ratios; one could be ... blah blah blah, stability, AP stability and worthiness; why are my rear bearings failing; best pinion ratio; best paint scheme for visability; what sim... the list goes on. There's something for (nearly) everbody (with enough cash) in this hobby (including heart failure) but one of the greatest factors I've experienced is AGE. (Dad, I need...) Ones age seems to be largeley deffinative in their focus in this hobby.

Vegetable rights and Peace

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02-12-2010 02:50 AM  8 years agoPost 31
snjbird

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I violently disagree that money or willingness to crash is what makes people better. I know people like that and if anything they do worse. Every time you crash you have:

1) Down time for repairs
Even if you have a back-up, you have to fix it some time, and that's time you can't fly
2) Frustration encountered with repairs
3) Fiscal anxiety... leads to apprehension
4) Possibly family stress if you are always working on crap

I feel the BEST way is to take it slow and master recovering from unusual attitudes... this'll pay huge dividends preventing crashes. Don't move on to something new until you are absolutely of the master of the last thing you did. You've got to have a comfortable place to go back to when you get turned around.

Maybe if you have no life and no family then crashing can be your learning tool, but I can't afford the time to go being an idiot with my machines.
No one said that crashing made them better, but having a heli your not so worried to crash, that releases the leash that holds people back. That being said... Since that video was posted I have crashed that heli twice... The first cost main shaft and feathering shaft... 6 bucks, the next just a belt, 6 more bucks,so it cost me 12 bucks but I did 65 flights just like that one, learning backward upright and inverted.

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02-12-2010 03:37 AM  8 years agoPost 32
jbiter

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No one said that crashing made them better, but having a heli your not so worried to crash, that releases the leash that holds people back.
Along these lines I suppose you could try all your new maneuvers on a borrowed heli!

Okay, just kidding!

Jeff

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02-12-2010 04:19 AM  8 years agoPost 33
snjbird

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In a manor of speaking, that is what it is like, having a heli that I feel I have gott'en my money out of 20 times over... is like it's on borrowed time

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02-12-2010 06:08 AM  8 years agoPost 34
LonR

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Don't matter if you have one heli or 20 helis (ive allways had one),its all about tons of stick/sim time,the person flying and the "fear of crashing".I have sooo much sim time I can't even make up a number,same with real stick time.I think what holds alot of people back is the fear of crashing the real thing.This is my 3rd real flight (other than lots of nose/tail in and side to side hovering for 3 weeks or so) on

April 24, 2008

Watch at YouTube

This video was on June 26, 2009 .

Watch at YouTube

And this is where im at now October 26, 2009

Watch at YouTube

Took me about 1 1/2 years to get where im at,not saying im a awesome pilot,pro or anything like that but im very happy with my progress and alot of it has to do with im not scared to crash.If it happens then o-well,check everything over and back in the air like it never happend.If your scared you will progress like a slug.I had 4 crashes the whole year out of hundreds of real flights,if I still had the pucker factor im sure I would crash alot trying the things im doing.

Its like asking a chick out on the first date,once you do it the lights go out in a few days then your happy haha.

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02-12-2010 06:41 AM  8 years agoPost 35
Andy.Kim

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I played competitive golf when I was younger. I wasn't the best but I was one of the top contenders in the state. Range of skill varied among the competition. Some people progressed well over the years while others vanished. I think it's a mixture of talent and hard work that dictates who's the best.

For some others it's not about being the best but being at a level where the game becomes satisfying. The bottom line is to enjoy the game.

RC Heli is just a toy. It's a hobby. I have the competitive side in me but the main thing is to enjoy the hobby. I am better than some and others are better than me. Who cares, I'm just out to have fun.

It is interesting to see how much I have changed over the years. Both as a skill and my perspective of the hobby. I used to think of needing the best equipment but now I try to get the most out of what I have now. It's not about what I'm flying with but how I'm flying it.

I never was into RC growing up. I was a golfer but in Christmas of 2007 I got an esky HBK2 and got hooked.

Is it about having a cheap heli or deep pockets? Nah, it's all in the mind. Mind must be clear and confident while flying. Confidence comes from practicing the right way

This is a video of my first forward flight. 3 weeks into the game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7h2...player_embedded

At 11 months
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKgqZ1TBqOI

Year and a half
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqUu...player_embedded

My first indoor flight a couple months ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_46c...player_embedded

Just a few days ago..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktVS...player_embedded

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02-12-2010 07:03 AM  8 years agoPost 36
LonR

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Mrktplayer
Is it about having a cheap heli or deep pockets? Nah, it's all in the mind. Mind must be clear and confident while flying. Confidence comes from practicing the right way
+1 and im not sure if you agree with me about this but my videos play a big role in my flying also.I can look back 2-3 months and see how much I progressed which gives me a good feeling knowing im moving up.Not sure how to explain it but when I watch my progress videos it makes me wanna fly harder haha.Do you feel the same way?BTW,nice flying sir .

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02-12-2010 07:53 AM  8 years agoPost 37
FlyBarz

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I have only been in hobby a little over year I am ok and improving, but prefer to not post any videos of myself and only use them to look over things. It is ok I suppose but spamming them FH450 every thread you can in makes you look cocky?

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02-12-2010 07:58 AM  8 years agoPost 38
chopper_crazy

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I understand the frustration but one of these days it will all just click. That's what happened to me. I thought I was in a rut and then all of a sudden, I was able to do all kinds of moves all at once. Just be patient.

It's a complex, costly, glow powered anti-gravity machine!

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02-12-2010 08:38 AM  8 years agoPost 39
LonR

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It is ok I suppose but spamming them FH450 every thread you can in makes you look cocky?
If you have a problem with me posting my videos then put me on ignore so theres no whining because im by far cocky.Maybe you didn't see the part where I said "not saying im a awesome pilot,pro or anything like that".Your post was a big help on the topic .

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02-12-2010 09:15 AM  8 years agoPost 40
FlyBarz

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just stating a obvious fact im sure many see no need to get your panties in a knot im not one looking for attention chief!

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