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02-02-2010 12:30 AM  8 years agoPost 1
dlflyer

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Man this thing is so sensative I can't even hover. I'm using the Sceadu 50 which what I own. I can hover it tail in and left side in but on the sim NO WAY. It is sensative on all sticks. I have 20%expo on elev and ailr not much help. Are these sims just difficult to fly or do I have something wrong. This is my first atempt at sim flying. I was hoping to get better but this thing is harder than the real deal.

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02-02-2010 12:51 AM  8 years agoPost 2
whbell

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I had the same problem with my Trex-500. I reduced Frontal and Lateral Cyclic response until I got a sim model that flew like my real one (from .56 to .41 for me). I also up the hover stability by 5% to 10% to get more stability there. Just try these until you get something that feels like your real bird.

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02-02-2010 01:04 AM  8 years agoPost 3
dlflyer

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whbel, can I use my TX expo and the simm settings?

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02-02-2010 01:21 AM  8 years agoPost 4
whbell

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Use either the expo in the sim or the expo in your Tx. If you use both you will have a very sluggish response. Ask me how I know

I actually have leaned to like the 6% in rudder an 10% in both Elev and Aileron. It gives a faster response, but a reduced Cyclic (previous post) prevents too much overshoot.

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02-02-2010 01:26 PM  8 years agoPost 5
newlandb

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Decatur, Illinois - United States

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I reduced the Simulation percentage on the program screen down to 75% and added 20% expo on cyclic. I believe reducing the simulation % did the most. It now flys like the real thing.

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02-02-2010 05:16 PM  8 years agoPost 6
Gyronut

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Martinsville In.

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Whats this simulation % you speak of......

Sim Speed.....

Rick

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02-02-2010 06:44 PM  8 years agoPost 7
Stolla

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MAke sure you calibrate your transmitter with no expo in the radio.

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02-02-2010 07:51 PM  8 years agoPost 8
dlflyer

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The simulation percentage really helped. I went to 75%. I'm still playing with the expo. Now if I can get used to looking at the screen and not get disorented I'll be doing better in no time. So much cheaper to watch those rotor blades go flying on the screen. Oh, I slowed the camara speed down too. Thanks for the TIP.

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02-03-2010 01:54 PM  8 years agoPost 9
newlandb

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Yes, the Sim speed. Poor choice of words when saying Sim %. Thanks.

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02-03-2010 06:08 PM  8 years agoPost 10
tussi

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Soerreisa, Norway

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do i understad correctly that i have to adjust for each model to make them more flyable? i am no expert pilot, but i didn't think i was this bad. (got my sim today)

and since i'm still working my way up to it, doing autos in the sim, how realistic compared to real-life? any thoughts?

Bjørn

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02-13-2010 12:33 AM  8 years agoPost 11
dlflyer

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Flushing, Michigan

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Doing much better. Making some of the suggested program changes and putting in the HOURS of practice. Hoving tail in,left & right side and can do nose in for a decient amount of time. Have also started some forward flight. This sim is awsome. Thanks for all the advice. Please keep it coming.

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02-14-2010 08:14 AM  8 years agoPost 12
whbell

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Melbourne, FL - U.S.A.

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As I am progressing in my begineers skills, I was finding that having the cyclic calmed down in the sim heli model for hover practice (Frontal and Lateral Cyclic response) was taking away too much control in the forward flight work. I reset the model in the sim to the original settings and then set the Dual Rates of the Tx to bring the cyclics down to 80% while in Normal and Flight Mode 1. Then in Flight Mode 2 I have the cyclics back to 100%.

I have had folks tell me that I should just learn to fly my helis at a fully responsive setup, but this is just what I find better for me. Even in my old planker days, I used D/R and Expo to calm down my pattern ship for take offs and landings. I am sure that by then end of this next flying season I will have a full 3D setup all the time, but till then I will build up to it.

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02-14-2010 12:25 PM  8 years agoPost 13
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That's what's important, learning at your speed. What works for someone else doesn't mean it'll work for you. You just have to find what works, and go with it.

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