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02-03-2010 11:21 PM  8 years agoPost 41
ckd

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There was no way I could get it to work on my 700 at 10mm. Close but not full travel. I went out to the next hole which I think was 12mm. I'm using the 8900G and haven't had a chance to try yet. 600 I was able to get 10mm to work.

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02-04-2010 12:21 AM  8 years agoPost 42
creightoncarr

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When did you learn to fly in a box??!!?!?

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02-04-2010 02:14 AM  8 years agoPost 43
Schuster_Helis

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Is it just me or does anyone else see that the heli in the video is bobbling all over the place. Every time he comes to a stop the heli bobbles and shakes. Especially noticeable during tic tocs. That would drive me nuts and can't be set right. Does anyone else with the 3G have this problem? I am about to buy one but I sure hope that this bobble can be eliminated. I have seen the same with vbar but it usually is too high cyclic gain.

Jim
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02-04-2010 02:49 AM  8 years agoPost 44
wings19

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From the sounds of it, he hasn't flown much so the gain probably isn't right (too high). That bobble doesn't occur when you see some other videos. Namely the Bert K. setup video when he flies at the end.

Nick
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02-04-2010 03:35 AM  8 years agoPost 45
Qrrambero

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The last comment reminded me about the OS 90 engine with pump about 3-4 years ago.
For one reason or other they worked with the top pilots, but in the hands of regular guys this engine was a piece of crap.
The G3 should work close to perfect out of the box, it was designed for the Align Helis and I see an Align 600 in the video. Just my two cents.

Ae

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02-04-2010 04:52 AM  8 years agoPost 46
steph280

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Mine worked perfect out of the box with recommended settings in manual. In fact all 3 of mine worked perfectly, except the 450 head bobble which was fixed with 2 tapes.

Since everybody setup their heli differently, you can't expect the 3G to work without adjustment. Just like the rudder gyro gain, different heli will need different gains.

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02-04-2010 05:12 AM  8 years agoPost 47
dRaptor

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Schuster_Helis
"Every time he comes to a stop the heli bobbles and shakes. Especially noticeable during tic tocs" Im having that problem when Im doing tic tocs the heli shakes and bobbles. Im going over the system this weekend I hope to find an answer

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02-04-2010 12:52 PM  8 years agoPost 48
Schuster_Helis

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dRaptor,

Thank you, Let us know what you find.

Jim
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02-04-2010 02:26 PM  8 years agoPost 49
ACKopter

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Finished the install on my Trex 500 and did the test flight yesterday and its nearly perfect setting wise right out of the box, Once I learned to follow the directions!

Screwup #1 Left the servo arm distance the stock 500 esp settings and had to redo the entire mechanical set-up when I found out it needed to be 13mm.
Screwup #2 DO NOT and I mean DO NOT use "zeal" tape for mounting the sensor on an ESP 500!!!!! The dang heli tried to destroy itself on the first spool up!! Changed it out for 1 layer of the tape that came in the box and its perfect.
Screwup #3 I set my aeileron mechanically at +/- 8 degress and the roll rate was too slow. Added more in the swash maix and it is now where it needs to be but have yet to check and see where the pitch value wound up.

For me,"your average just learning to do slightly more than F flight" pilot, it is a great way to venture into FBL flight. I'm very pleased at this point with my new purchase.

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02-04-2010 03:04 PM  8 years agoPost 50
powerflyer

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3G GOOD EXPERIENCE !
Hi guys,

I'm very surprised to read all the above comments, I installed the 3G on my 700 electro and the only problem I had from the first flight was an excess of gain on the cyclic generating some shakes when making stops. I reduced the gain and it mostly disappeared only 7 flights till now. Have to continue the tests !
For the ones who have tail problems you should double check the delay setting green for 600 and 700 red for smaller helis.

I use bls351 cyclic and bls251 tail JIVE 120 + PYRO 700-45 14teeth and BIZMODEL.IT 3D EXPERIENCE KIT. + microheli crown gear and 2x Giga power 25c 5100mah 6S 700gr batts 4.9KG with batteries and huge power !

The best config ever tried !

http://www.xperience3d.com/core/

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02-04-2010 04:42 PM  8 years agoPost 51
steph280

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Like I said in another post...most of the naysayers have never tried a 3G. I scratch my head every time I see any mentions of perceived problems. I ain't no rocket scientist and I have set up several 3G system without any issues.

Yes I agree with ACKopter, you do have to RTFM with the 3G, specially for first timers into FBL. Little things that wasn't so critical before are now critical with FBL.

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02-04-2010 06:32 PM  8 years agoPost 52
ren

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Little things that wasn't so critical before are now critical with FBL.
+1

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