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01-23-2010 05:24 PM  8 years agoPost 1
PA Heli-Girl

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Hi Everyone:

I'm ready to start building my Logo 400 and am looking for ideas on a clean/simple wiring set-up. I will be installing a Mini Vbar as well... so I know I have to install a mounting plate bridging the two side frames. I would very much appreciate it if any of you could post some pics to help me get some ideas on mounting the electronics and tying up the wires. The simpler the set-up the better. On my past heli's I focused more on hiding wires. While the machines look great, its a royal pain in my arse to work on them when needed. I'm looking to build this little guy for ease of repair. I know what you're thinking and... Yes, I plan on crashing it... a lot ;-)

All pics and advice will be greatly appreciated

Thanks,
Mair

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01-23-2010 06:25 PM  8 years agoPost 2
Ronald Thomas

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Hey Mair!

The Logo 400s frames are harder to hide wiring but it can be done One trick I saw Danny (F1Rocket) do was remove the end plud and put black heatshrink on the wiring and reinstall the plug. That gave him a black wire (easy to hide) in a small footprint.
Now with the Mini-V, you want to make sure the wires do not pull on the Mini-V. You also do not want the wiring to introduce any vibes (sleeving added to the wires and bundled up together) so if you do add the sleeving, maybe cut the servo lengths to exactly what you need and leave ~2 inches of exposed wiring right at the Mini-V so that there is a buffer.
As far as the open spot between the frames in the rear, I went to a plastics shop and got them to cut me a small piece of plastic (similar to the stuff cutting boards are made of) the size I wanted and then I epoxied it to both frame halves. That provided a stable platform for my gyros and it also stiffened the frame a bit.

Hope this helps..........Ron

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01-23-2010 09:30 PM  8 years agoPost 3
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Thanks, Ron!
All good tips...

Shortening servo wires is the one thing I need to learn to do yet. I haven't tried it on any of my birds yet but perhaps I shall give it a try on this heli. That would definitely help me to clean it up plus simplify the overall wiring scheme. Do you have any must DO's and DO NOTS for that task?

Mair

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01-23-2010 10:13 PM  8 years agoPost 4
Ronald Thomas

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Must do: Use the correct crimping tool and connectors for the ends.

Do not: Rush the job and get the leads in the wrong order when reinstalling them

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01-24-2010 02:58 AM  8 years agoPost 5
PA Heli-Girl

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Just ordered a kit from Hansen Hobby with all of the stuff needed to complete the job. From the info on their site, looks like a piece o' cake. Just need to follow your advice of right tools and take my time. Looks like it's 10 times easier than soldering... will see.

Mair

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01-24-2010 03:35 AM  8 years agoPost 6
gravydrive

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Did you get the kit with the red tool or the blue tool? The red tool will "do", but you will be MUCH better off with the blue, double action tool. If you start doing a lot of crimping, definitely pay the extra 20 or so dollars for the better crimper.

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01-24-2010 12:36 PM  8 years agoPost 7
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Hi gravydrive:

The kit came with the red tool but I bought the blue tool too. On the blue one, it looked like the crimping tool was removable such that other wire size crimping tools could be swapped in and out later on. So I figured that I couldn't go wrong with the dual purchase.

I'm glad I took that route now since you confirmed that I'd be better off with the blue one.

Thanks!
Mair

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01-24-2010 02:21 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Paul Gleeson

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Can you send me the link for the Hansen Hobby kit you used.

Thanks, Paul

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01-24-2010 07:30 PM  8 years agoPost 9
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Hi Paul:

I hope these links work... First one is the kit I bought. Second is link to all of their kits, third is the deluxe tool crimper.

http://www.hansenhobbies.com/produc...torkits/ck_sck/

http://www.hansenhobbies.com/produc.../connectorkits/

http://www.hansenhobbies.com/produc...tools/crimp_dx/

Their home page has a good pdf and video on "how to"

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Mair

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01-24-2010 07:31 PM  8 years agoPost 10
PA Heli-Girl

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Oh... I got the Futaba one with stripper too.

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01-25-2010 02:07 AM  8 years agoPost 11
OICU812

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Cool Mair let us know how it goes!

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01-25-2010 03:00 AM  8 years agoPost 12
gravydrive

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Great, you're going to love the deluxe tool! Practice a few times on extra wire before you try to crimp on an actual servo lead.

With the red crimper I'd say I made a bad crimp about one out of every five attempts. Not too bad until you realize that if you jack up one wire out of the three, you have to cut all three wires and try again. Usually the bad crimps are salvageable, but after that they tend to not want to easily slide into the housing. I also found that the red tool bends the terminals which makes getting them into the housing a pain.

The deluxe tool is a joy to use, I haven't made a bad crimp yet. Not only that but you won't be destroying you hands putting an ungodly gorilla grip like you would be with the red tool.

Wherever you buy the connector kits from, go for the JR versions, they're the same as Futaba except they don't have the little tab on the side. The Futabas are a pain if you need to plug them into a place that doesn't have the little tab slot, then you have to go and sand it off, PITA.

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01-26-2010 02:14 AM  8 years agoPost 13
PA Heli-Girl

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I'm glad to hear how well the deluxe tool works.

I knew that there is little room for error on the crimp. That's really why I haven't tried to tackle servo wire modification before this. I can't afford to have an equipment malfunction. I'm not a good enough pilot to save my ship in the event of a malfunction. Although I am getting braver in what I try to tackle. The more I rip and tear into this stuff, the more comfortable I get. I'm excited to start this build. I will definately keep y'all posted on how it goes. I should be able to start this weekend unless a work emergency rears its ugly head again **fingers crossed that THAT doesn't happen**

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Mair

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01-26-2010 04:38 AM  8 years agoPost 14
phil evon

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i didnt find a need to shorten any wires on mine

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01-27-2010 01:05 AM  8 years agoPost 15
PA Heli-Girl

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Thanks for the pics, Phil. I sure do appreciate them. I will be installing the same motor and speed controller as you.

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Mair

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01-28-2010 02:15 AM  8 years agoPost 16
danieldouville

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my setup
Here's what ive got going, i agree with you about it being a pain in the ars to rewire hidden wiring after a crash so i went with a neat bundle rig, check it out, i hope it helps I also changed to ZEAL tape for my mini v bar and added some velcro strapping which really made it rock solid.
Daniel

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01-28-2010 02:45 AM  8 years agoPost 17
PA Heli-Girl

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Hi Daniel:

Thank you for the pics. So you didn't build a platform to bridge the gap between the side frames for the Mini Vbar to sit on? You simply used a more vibration absorbent tape? Is that correct?

Also, you mention that you added velcro strapping to make it rock solid. Are you strapping the mini vbar down in addition to the Zeal tape on the bottom?

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Mair

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01-28-2010 02:52 AM  8 years agoPost 18
danieldouville

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Hi Mair:)
You are correct, i didnt build a platform because the ZEAL tape is boss!
Yes, i used a velcro strap to hold her down good but not too tight.
My pleasure to help, Daniel

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01-28-2010 03:03 AM  8 years agoPost 19
PA Heli-Girl

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Holy Cow! I didn't realize the Zeal tape was so thick! Hmmmmm... something else for me to think about.

Regards,
Mair

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01-28-2010 03:37 AM  8 years agoPost 20
phil evon

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I would suggest the Custom Heli Parts gyro mount platform that readyheli sells for the Logo 400. If you look close you can see it on mine. Really makes a nice sturdy platform for mounting the mini V Bar. Even if you use the Zeal tape.

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