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01-22-2010 07:02 PM  8 years agoPost 1
Brokenlink

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Watch at YouTube

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01-22-2010 07:08 PM  8 years agoPost 2
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Too cool!

I've already watched it like 5 times!

Where does he get those wonderful toys?

Saturday morning I flew my helicopter in my pajamas
How it got in my pajamas I'll never know

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01-22-2010 07:15 PM  8 years agoPost 3
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I don't know where he gets them,what he really needs is some ear protection

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01-22-2010 07:40 PM  8 years agoPost 4
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It's a glock 18c. There are no civilian transferable ones in circulation. Only a government agency or a a dealer with an SOT and a demo letter may own one. They sell new for $800 if I remember right.

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01-22-2010 10:20 PM  8 years agoPost 5
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It's a glock 18c. There are no civilian transferable ones in circulation. Only a government agency or a a dealer with an SOT and a demo letter may own one. They sell new for $800 if I remember right.
Oh yeah? Shows all you know. I use one all the time in Modern Warfare 2!

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01-22-2010 11:10 PM  8 years agoPost 6
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No "machine gun" made after 1986 can be transferred to civilians

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01-22-2010 11:35 PM  8 years agoPost 7
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With 9mm ammo as hard to find as it is now. This video makes me feel like cryin.

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01-22-2010 11:56 PM  8 years agoPost 8
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I feel your pain, ammo has been non existant around here for awhile, along with reloading supplies

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01-23-2010 01:10 AM  8 years agoPost 9
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there are some civilians that own them, with the right connections you could possibly acquire the proper license. Seen a few owners that post on some glock boards i visit. puts my glock 19 to shame but at least i can afford to feed it unlike the 18.

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01-23-2010 01:29 AM  8 years agoPost 10
DustinB

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There are no civilians I've ever heard of that have any glock 18's. Glock 17's weren't even in the US until 83-84 and only for government agencies. 19's were created in 88 so that put's 18s around 85-87. They would have to be in the US in mass quantities for civilians to get ahold of them and then they would have to have been registered prior to may 1986. Anything not registered after may 1986 was and is impossible for any non-government/law enforcement agency or SOT dealer. Even protection companies like blackwater can't legally buy new production full auto firearms. The "owners" you saw are likely dealers with a special occupations tax. It's not that hard to get.

If for some magical reason there happened to be 1 or 2 or even 10 in civilian transferable circulation they would be worth upwards of 500k to 1 mil.

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01-23-2010 01:59 AM  8 years agoPost 11
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That was cool.


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01-23-2010 04:39 AM  8 years agoPost 12
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No "machine gun" made after 1986 can be transferred to civilians
You can buy most Machine guns out if you have a class 3 license

Here is a place in Utah that sells & can get your license. As you can see on the web site if you have the money, you can get anything!

http://www.impactguns.com/store/machineguns.html

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01-23-2010 05:58 AM  8 years agoPost 13
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Don't confuse a class 3 license with a tax stamp.

A class 3 license with SOT "special occupations tax" is a dealer licensed with a paid tax to deal in nfa firearms. This used to be fairly easy to get a hold of but now has become a bit more strict where you have to demonstrate the intent to run a business dealing in nfa items. Even as a dealer with an SOT you may only purchase post 86 firearms with a law enforcement demo letter.

A tax stamp (what some people mistakenly refer to as a class 3 license) is what an individual has to have to possess a transferable pre 86 machine gun, or a new manufacture silencer, short barrel rifle, etc... This is fairly easy to obtain if you pay the $200 per item tax and get a local law enforcement signature on your application for tax paid transfer form.

This process takes anywhere from 2-6 months to complete. My short barrel rifle and 2 silencers cost me $600 in tax and took 3 months to transfer.

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01-23-2010 01:29 PM  8 years agoPost 14
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Thanks DustinB, Most people have no clue of the laws. I have the FFL packet waiting to fill out and send in for my license just havent done it yet

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01-23-2010 10:14 PM  8 years agoPost 15
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Here is what is needed below in Utah, I have a friend with a full auto MAC10 and no he does not have a FFL, but he did have to go thru the process again below:

Machine Guns-- Private & Corporate Ownership
It is a common misconception that machine guns cannot be owned by law-abiding citizens. This comes from the creation of a variety of confusing laws that have made purchasing a full-auto gun more difficult than purchasing a "normal" gun. But, if you can comply with the law, you may qualify to own a machine gun.

First a brief history: In May of 1986, certain laws went into effect that made it illegal for 'civilians' to own fully automatic firearms that were manufactured AFTER THAT DATE. Many fully automatic weapons manufactured, registered and tax paid BEFORE MAY, 1986, MAY BE OWNED BY AND SOLD TO INDIVIDUALS. The full-auto guns that may be owned by individuals are called 'transferable'. Some states DO NOT allow machine gun ownership at all, no matter when the gun was made, but many states do.

To purchase a transferable machine gun, you must meet certain requirements (generally the same as when you purchase another gun, but with additional scrutiny), fill out special paperwork (called a 'form 4', and pay a $200, one-time, transfer tax. Every time a machine gun is transferred, the $200 tax must be paid-- usually by the purchaser. The steps to take to purchase a transferable machine gun are:
Find a dealer locally who can assist you in all phases of the transfer. This should go beyond helping you fill out the paperwork: they should help you locate the gun if it isn't in stock and allow you to shoot the gun while your paperwork is being processed by the BATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms). It will usually take 4-6 weeks for the dealer to get the gun from another dealer if they don't already have it in stock (due to BATF paperwork delays).
Get your fingerprints (either by a police dept. or by a qualified fingerprinter, two imprints are needed) and two passport sized pictures taken. These will be used to perform a comprehensive criminal background check on you.

Have your local dealer help you fill out an "Application for Tax Paid Transfer And Registration Of Firearm" for, known as a "form 4".
You must have the signature of the Chief Law Enforcement (CLEO) officer that has jurisdiction over the municipality in which you live on the form 4. This could be the City Chief or the County Sheriff, for example. This is usually not a problem-- in machine gun friendly states. The form 4, CLEO signature, 2 fingerprint cards, 2 pictures, and a $200 check (your one-time transfer tax) must all be mailed to the BATF and an approved tax stamp returned before you may take possession of the gun. This may take anywhere from 2 to 5 months.

Although it may seem complicated, we are happy to help you through every step in the process. We have transferable guns in stock, and if we don't have it, we can tap into a network of dealers in other states to find it for you. Let us help you get the full-auto gun that you've always wanted-- they are worth it! We are not lawyers, and do not represent ourselves to offer legal advice. We can point you in the direction of counsel upon request.

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01-23-2010 10:22 PM  8 years agoPost 16
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Dambn nice video. WOW.

I'd like to measure the barrel temperature after that!

I have a Glock 19 compensated, the quick-fire accuracy of that is quite impressive.

I wonder how accurate the pictured gun would be? it seems there are quire a bit of recoil.

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01-23-2010 10:47 PM  8 years agoPost 17
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So from the start the 18C was designed to be fully automatic?

Nevermind -- found this on Wiki:
"The Glock 18 is a selective fire variant of the Glock 17, developed at the request of the Austrian counter-terrorist unit EKO Cobra. This machine pistol-class firearm has a lever-type fire-control selector switch, installed on the left side of the slide, in the rear, serrated portion (selector lever in the bottom position – continuous fire, top setting – single fire). The firearm is typically used with an extended 33-round capacity magazine... The pistol’s rate of fire in fully automatic mode is approx. 1200 rounds/min. Most of the other characteristics are equivalent to the Glock 17, although the slide, frame, and certain fire-control parts of the Glock 18 are not interchangeable with other Glock models"
I'd give a years worth of my left pinky fingernail clippings for a magazine that size for my G23. An old cop friend gave me a couple cop-only large capacity mags for it awhile back, but more is always better when the lead's flying, eh?

op-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-thwop-t

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01-23-2010 10:48 PM  8 years agoPost 18
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I'd like to measure the barrel temperature after that!
That's easy,touch it with your finger
wonder how accurate the pictured gun would be?
Well,I don't think I would be worried about accuracy with that much lead heading in my direction.

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01-24-2010 02:24 AM  8 years agoPost 19
300wby

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I used to have a video of an m-4 going through a beta-c mag, 100 rds in about 15 seconds, a woman lit a cigarette on the orange glowing barrel at the end.

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01-24-2010 02:50 AM  8 years agoPost 20
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I found this exploded view of what could be a Glock 18 or 18C. Can anyone confirm this?

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