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01-22-2010 12:24 PM  8 years agoPost 1
twinpeak

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Hi,
does anybody know if it is true, that the TotalG can be operated exceptionaly in connection with Spectrum-satellite-receivers? Or in other words: Is it true that it is not possible to connect TotalG in the conventional manner to any external full size receiver via servo-leads?
I´ve posted this question already in other forums but nobody seems to know the answer to this easy question
thanks David

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01-22-2010 12:40 PM  8 years agoPost 2
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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Have you called the CY company to ask?

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01-22-2010 01:56 PM  8 years agoPost 3
twinpeak

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Yes I have........... the thread on TotalG is running within the Rave section....not FBL

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01-22-2010 04:11 PM  8 years agoPost 4
DWS6

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Curtis said on his site that the Total G requires only the satellites but could get set up using an external receiver. I believe I also read the Jamie Robinson is using his as satellite only.
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01-22-2010 04:25 PM  8 years agoPost 5
USNAviationjay

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pretty sure it is Spektrum/JR only at this point it requires the sats to work.

but did say he would support Futaba Sats if they ever come out.

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01-22-2010 04:57 PM  8 years agoPost 6
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The initial version of the Total G will only work with the Spectrum satellites. I will not have the ability to be plugged into and external Futaba receiver. We will have a version out that is made for that. But the initial version is only for Spectrum satellites.
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So nope no Futaba. right now anyway. and no way to use a full size RX.

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01-22-2010 05:08 PM  8 years agoPost 7
twinpeak

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http://www.allmyrc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=634

"da man" is saying it himself: the TotalG will be released as "only Spectrum-satellite-compatibel", so non-Spectrum users are not welcome as customers (yet?)
This looks like a school-book case of voluntarely giving up market-share
Kind a disapointing though, I thought Curtis was talented business-man as well......
David

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01-22-2010 05:18 PM  8 years agoPost 8
USNAviationjay

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here in the US the market share is JR/Spektrum with the minority flying Futaba.

I go to fun flies all over the Southwest/east US and see table after table of JR9303s and DX7s and then maybe 2 -3 guys with Futaba.. pretty lopsided ratio from what I've seen.

even in the hobby shops entire walls of Spektrum products and just a handful of Futaba things.

I think to meet his vision he had to go with the sats and JR/Spectrum first.

complain to Futaba for not getting their products out fast enough to keep up with the times.

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01-22-2010 05:27 PM  8 years agoPost 9
cudaboy_71

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<flameon>

sounds more like playing TO the existing market to me considering a few rational assumptions:

1-no one/company would intentionally exclude a market segment out of spite, or whatever reason.

2-the costs associated with developing multiple systems out of the gate is cost prohibitive.

3-the smart move is to develop for the dominant market (spektrum)

understand your bitterness though if you're dedicated to/invested in futaba.

if it ain't broke, break it.

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01-22-2010 05:34 PM  8 years agoPost 10
Ben-T-Spindle

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Looks all us Futaba users will have to wait for the SK720 to come out. Has anyone heard any news on that system?

I use to fly Spektrum but had problems and switched to Futaba and will never go back.

I really don’t see Spektrum as the most popular system any more. More and more other brands are showing up at the field.

... BTS

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01-22-2010 05:59 PM  8 years agoPost 11
twinpeak

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sounds more like playing TO the existing market to me considering a few rational assumptions:

1-no one/company would intentionally exclude a market segment out of spite, or whatever reason.

2-the costs associated with developing multiple systems out of the gate is cost prohibitive.

3-the smart move is to develop for the dominant market (spektrum)

understand your bitterness though if you're dedicated to/invested in futaba.
I´m not a space engineer, but I do know that adding five pins for the input from an external receiver is definetly NOT a cost-prohibitive act of RnD.
If Mikado can do it, why can´t CYE accomplish such a trivial feature ?

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01-22-2010 06:26 PM  8 years agoPost 12
Eury

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I agree, it's just wrong to exclude non Spektrum users. Every other manufacturer can make theirs work, buy CYE has decided not to. There are plenty of people who are not on 2.4, or using Futaba's 2.4, it's a shame that none of them can use the Total G.

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01-23-2010 12:11 AM  8 years agoPost 13
blade slayer

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at my local flying field there is one guy with a futaba radio,everybody else has dx7 or 9303 ,and having the total G conected directly to the radio without wires going into the reciber ,i think is a good idea,i like it. i guess the futaba guys will have to wait or upgrade to spektrum

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01-23-2010 06:35 AM  8 years agoPost 14
Eury

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Why limit it? If Mikado has no problem making theirs compatible with everything, why should CYE?

It's stupid to have multiple versions, just from a cost standpoint. It will cost Cye more money to manufacture, package and market multiple versions, and in turn costs dealers more to stock them. Plus additional support costs. It makes no sense to not have inputs from a regular receiver.

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01-23-2010 10:40 AM  8 years agoPost 15
baby_zyklon

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TBH, I really don't understand all this craze about having "integrated receiver". I think there isn't much, if any advantage to it, as least from the perspective of a fasst user.

Sure enough, you no longer need to run a few short wires to the receiver, but now you have to run two much longer wires to two satelite rx. The footprint, weight and cost of two satelite rx vs one simple 617fs is not really that different. In any case, they aren't that different from even a larger 608fs or 6008hs if you consider the cost, weight and footprint of the whole system.

So, where is the advantage that I am failing to see?

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01-23-2010 10:54 AM  8 years agoPost 16
MrMel

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So, where is the advantage that I am failing to see?
Neat wiring, that's the only benefit, actually, you do have drawbacks rather since satellites doesnt output 2048 or high framerate unless connected to a main RX as far as I understand.

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01-23-2010 12:08 PM  8 years agoPost 17
twinpeak

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Exactly, the only benefit is neat wiring, which realy is no issue on 500 and larger size birds.
The cons are: reduced data processing speed, reduced range, limitation to the standard of one manufacurer (at least as long as there are no common standars for signal-decoding).
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01-23-2010 12:47 PM  8 years agoPost 18
petmotel

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I was planning on using a TotalG on my new FBL Rave ENV build (when it's available). Alternate to plan B, TG is not for me.

Jay

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01-23-2010 01:32 PM  8 years agoPost 19
Ben-T-Spindle

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The name of this thread should be TotalG RX incompatibility – what was CY thinking – LOL.

Maybe Spektrum paid him to make it compatible with only Spektrum radios.

... BTS

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01-23-2010 02:14 PM  8 years agoPost 20
petmotel

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In all fairness, CYE has never made any excuses about their loyalty to JR. And while the initial version appears to only be JR/Spektrum compatible, Curtis seems to be saying he will be releasing an alternate version that will support external RXs.

I have been using CYE electronics since they first became available, AWESOME stuff. I hate to see the bashing here, the integrated box is no doubt a lot of work. I'm sure they're doing the best they can to release a SOLID (pun intended) offering. When the external RX version is released, it will most likely be just as good as the rest of their equipment, and everyone will be TOTALLY happy.

BTW, reduced weight, as well as less wiring clutter is a benefit of the integrated electronics.

Jay

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