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01-20-2010 10:23 PM  8 years agoPost 1
85% Insane

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anyone usein the cheaper gyros say under $50 and getting good results

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01-20-2010 10:23 PM  8 years agoPost 2
FlaG8r

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what about the E Flite models?

Life is tough, it's tougher if you're stupid

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01-20-2010 11:10 PM  8 years agoPost 3
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theres one that is $40 bucks. its a hit or mise gyro. Its that gy401b gyro.

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01-21-2010 01:34 AM  8 years agoPost 4
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have you tried it

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01-21-2010 02:16 AM  8 years agoPost 5
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2 cents
I can't speak of the GY401B, but i battled a telebee $60 gyro (same as the eflite) for over a year. Yes i did learn a lot and got flying OK with it, but i would HIGHLY suggest you go ahead and purchase a decent gyro. I am more then convinced that the gyro held me back as well as actually causing crashes during that year. The extra money you'll save in crashes the first six months or less. Take a look at the for sale adds. You can get a used Futaba 401 for $70 or a better gyro for 115 or less. Hope that helps.

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01-21-2010 02:25 AM  8 years agoPost 6
Michaelinpr

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+1 to everything jake said

On the other hand many people say that these are working well and some even say they replaced there Futaba 401.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/...Head_Lock_Gyro_

I am not convinced yet. I will try one on my next order from Hobby King just so I can better answer these questions. For 14 bucks it is worth a try i guess. But I dont think I will be surprised at the quality.

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01-21-2010 06:13 PM  8 years agoPost 7
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I have one on order also just to try out, I will report if I get chance. The reviews say it is ever bit as good as a 401 so might be worth a try.

Good luck
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01-21-2010 08:31 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Mitchilito

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HK401b
I think the hot ticket in cheap gyros now is the Hobby King 401B. Haven't tried one myself but everybody's raving that this gyro works as good the the futaba 401 they ripped it off of and it costs THIRTEEN DOLLARS!!

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01-21-2010 08:45 PM  8 years agoPost 9
Michaelinpr

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The thing is though, I have never heard of any one that has it on these forums.

The only reviews I have seen are the ones on HK. And I am very suspect of those reviews on HK. I think most are the HK staff and I heard somewhere that you get bonus points for leaving good product reviews. Who knows. We will just have to try it ourselves.

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01-21-2010 08:50 PM  8 years agoPost 10
DustinB

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Like the other guy said, you can get a used futaba 401 for $55-$75. I've got an old one that has been through several crashes and it's still going strong. You should be able to find a used 9650 servo for it for $25 or so as well.

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01-21-2010 09:14 PM  8 years agoPost 11
Melnic

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I've gotten the G401B as well as Detrum Gy48V to work.
For myself and others, I've set up 4 G401Bs now.
G401B I did a mod to it:
http://www.mycoolheli.com/G401Bmod.html

I've done 3 GY48Vs (HobbyPartz.com)
Both perform the same to me.

I still have a G401B on a heli but I"ll probably swap out a used GY401 from another heli and put it in that one.

Those 2 gyros are the best sub $50 gyros I've tried.
But they are no GY401.
GY401 is less sensitive to vibes, more temperature stable and just seem to drift less or hold a little better.

Those gyros are fine for novices or sport flyers or temporary but once you get into harder more aggressive flying, they will start to wear on you and you'll want something better.

I'm in the process of upgrading the gyros in 3 of my helis to GY520's.

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01-21-2010 10:05 PM  8 years agoPost 12
nivlek

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The thing is though, I have never heard of any one that has it on these forums.

The only reviews I have seen are the ones on HK. And I am very suspect of those reviews on HK. I think most are the HK staff and I heard somewhere that you get bonus points for leaving good product reviews. Who knows. We will just have to try it ourselves.
I'm using two MY401B gyros (Mystery branded )and a G401B (XM Hobbies branded) and have a spare MY401B . They are the same gyro as the HK401B . They work fine , much better than they should for the price .
Temperature drift is minimal to undetectable on the ones I have and the hold is very good , plenty good enough for fast backward rolls and loops etc . Pirouette consistancy is not great , but it is as good as a Futaba GY401 .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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01-22-2010 05:25 PM  8 years agoPost 13
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Below is a cut and paste from another post I wrote. In it I have the XMHobbies g401b gyro. It's been working very good. I think the only thing holding back from working "great" is the fact that I'm using a cheap $4 servo on the tail rotor.

You may notice that I modified the gyro by cutting the rudder servo wire and wired it directly inside the gyro. I did this to dress the heli up or I would have the long servo wire and the even longer gyro wire sticking out... Since the gyro only cost me $20, I didnt care too much about doing it. -Steve

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Here is my CopterX 450 AE V2. I'm no "expert" as a lot of other people claim to be. But from what I can tell, the parts fit and quality is exactly the same as my Align 450 SE.

I bought one of those cheap ($59) CopterX 450 AE V2 helicopters just to try one out. I was not expecting much. But, I was qiute surprised. Overall quality was pretty good.

Just for fun, I also bought all the "el cheapo" stuff to go along with it. My goal was to keep it all stock and as cheap as possible. The only thing I didnt skimp on was the receiver (and thats so I could actually fly it). Here is what I bought/spent:

CopterX 450 AE V2 $59
4 Turnigy TG9 servos $16 ($4 each)
Turnigy 30A ESC $18
Turnigy ESC Program Card $6
KA450H Motor - 3200Kv $17
G401B Gyro $20
Dragon Carbon Blades $13
Flightmax (Zippy) 2200ma 3S battery $18
Futaba 6008HS Receiver $105

Total cost $272 ready to fly (and thats including the very expensive receiver).

It is all stock except for the tail fins. The kit comes with aluminum tail fins (they are made out of the same material as the main frames). I had an old set of plastic fins laying around, so I put those on. The only other thing I changed was the tail blades and main blades. The tail blades were fine, but they were black. I much prefer white blades so I through some Align white blades on. And the stock main blades were wood. The looked OK, but really, who flies wood anymore?

Lastly, here is the part I hate to say - it flies just as good as my Align Trex 450 SE. Look in my gallery and compare the two.

-Steve

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01-22-2010 05:57 PM  8 years agoPost 14
Vance

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01-22-2010 06:17 PM  8 years agoPost 15
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the only problem with 401b's is that hey are hit and miss with flight quality. some report great flights others can never stop drift.

it has never changed in this hobby You Get What You Pay For

for a cheap gyro you can get logitech 2100T's for 60 bucks out of the classifieds and have something that will work for you and can take you to the pro level. after that a real 401 are you best safe bet.

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01-22-2010 06:28 PM  8 years agoPost 16
nivlek

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some report great flights others can never stop drift.
I'm running three , two have had a lot of flying , the drift on one of the two is barely detectable , the other exibits no drift .
The third one has only had one flight , so I can't really comment , but it also seemed fine on , at least on that occasion .
I've set another one up in a clubmates Blade 400 , that one didn't exibit any drift . Another clubmate has a couple of them , at least one of them in a 500 size heli , he has said that he is happy with them .

OK , that's only half a dozen of them , but I haven't seen a 'bad' one . They are perfectly good enough for a begginers heli or in any cheap and cheerful electric setup , e.g. 450 clone . At that price , you can regard them as a disposable/expendable item .

I've been tempted to try them in an ultra cheap flybarless setup on the cyclic controls of a 450 .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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01-23-2010 07:36 PM  8 years agoPost 17
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I ran a few "cheap" gyros in the beginning. I would get it set up to work pretty good for 3 or 4 packs, then it would go "wonky" for no apparent reason. I was determained to make them work, to no avail. I finally broke down and bought a used Futaba 401/9650 combo, all I can say is WOW!!! I may be able to learn to fly these things after all. When you can find "used" 401's for around $70 + or -, It just isn't worth the time and aggrivation to go "cheap" IMHO.

If you are determained to go the "cheap" route, at least make sure you use a good tail servo. Even a good gyro will only work as good as the servo.

The people that claim to have good luck with cheap gyros usually are using capable tail servos....and likely haven't experienced how well a "good" gyro really works. It can be alot of hit or miss with the cheapies.

Not worring about, or fighting the gyro/tail is priceless.

Bill

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01-24-2010 03:48 AM  8 years agoPost 18
jason46

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If I had to do it over again knowing what I know now, I'd buy the best gyro I could before I bought anything else. Using a cheap gyro just makes the learning curve even steeper, there are enough things to spend time figuring out rather than babysitting the gyro.

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01-24-2010 04:28 AM  8 years agoPost 19
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I agree, knowing what I know now, save yourself time, money, and aggrevation, and don't go cheap on the tail.

In the end...cheap will not be cheap in more ways than one. This is from my personal experience.

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01-24-2010 09:09 AM  8 years agoPost 20
nivlek

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Well , owning several high end gyros and having flown many different gyros over many years , I still say that the G401B/MY401B does an excellent job for a very small outlay .
If you've tried one youself and didn't have any joy , fair enough , otherwise you are in no position to judge it .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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