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12-22-2010 01:05 PM  9 years ago
Ed Zachary

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Out of the box, my MSR could not muster much in the forward flight department. I searched, checked, used all kinds of radio settings (using a DX6i) and still no joy. My MCX could fly forward faster.
So I left the heli alone for a few months.

Then a couple weeks ago, I did some more searching. I found a couple mentions where people had shortened their right side (elevator/vertical cyclic) pushrod by 5 full turns.
In one of those threads, someone mentioned that after making this adjustment his pushrods were of equal length.

So I measured my pushrods. The righthand side one was a couple millimeters longer that the other. So I shortened by 5 full turns. Then measured. Equal lengths.

Now the MSR can rip around the room a lot faster and, surprisingly enough, is a lot easier to control.

You could give it a go. Worst case, it doesn't work and you just back it out as many turns as you shortened it and try something else.
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12-22-2010 04:14 PM  9 years ago
erichevy

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Hi Ed,
Thanks for your info. It looks like my elevator rod is already shorter than the aileron rod. I also notice the angle of the mainmast to the right.
The picture will show this.

So is your suggestion still an option for me do you think?

Eric.
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12-22-2010 07:25 PM  9 years ago
Vader1

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Short servo rod by 5 turns
You can do the same thing by trimming it out to have more forward cyclic. Do yourselves a favor and notice that this heli will go backwards and sideways very easy but FFF seems to have some issues. For starters, this heli is designed to be stable for a tiny light heli. The design effort put into it by E-flite is impressive. This heli is a joy to fly inside. Not only does it have mechanical stability but it also has built in factory settings in it's 5 in 1 board. My MSR in stock form out of the box flies just how it was intended. I use the DX6i but I don't try to mix anything nor do I try to get more throws etc... I make the TX neutral so the 5 and 1 can do its thing. If I try to add mixes etc the heli will not fly as well. It looses what E-flite worked so hard at. If you want to make the heli more aggressive in FFF you have to get it off its center of gravity. I found the best way without hacking up swash plate arms is to move some weight forward. I do this outside mostly because any sort of wind is too much for it up wind. With some forward weight it helps out. (I have a stock swash plate). The tail motor and the torque of this motor spinning along with the great stability built into the rotor head design gives this little heli some trouble getting started. Why do you think it goes backwards so well !!! Weight of tail motor and the effect of it's torque is in the opposite direction. Forward weight helps and you can still stop and slow down. You may not be able to go hands off in a hover but it will not be that bad. If you have the battery center of gravity at the stock location you can also learn how to use the throttle and forward cyclic to get it going better. I feel that some people may have a poorly set up DX6i also. Let the 5 in 1 do its thing. Enjoy the dual rates set up by E-flite.
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12-29-2010 08:21 PM  9 years ago
dlflyer

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I have the same problem with FF. It did develope a buzzing noise. I never thought about the bearing going bad in such a short time. Maybe a drop of Tri Flow will help. Mite just be dry. I have checked all the other stuff already. I'm going to try a little nose weight like Vader1 had luck with. If that doesn't work I'm making the call to Horizon.We have a Great country Because we have Great People
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12-30-2010 03:34 AM  9 years ago
slo fly

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If you fly with the DX6i you need to make sure the gear/fmode switch is in fmode. If it is in the gear position it flys forward super slow. This is if you're flying in ACRO (plane) mode. If you are in heli mode the flap/gyro switch needs to be in gyro (I think, I don't fly heli mode so not sure, but the position of the switch affects performance so try it either way if you're in heli mode) If you're on a stock Tx try pressing the right stick in until it clicks, this will change rates, maybe by accident you pushed the stick in and went into low rates.
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12-30-2010 09:49 AM  9 years ago
erichevy

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It has the same habit in low and normal rate with the stock transmitter.

Eric.
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12-31-2010 04:06 PM  9 years ago
dlflyer

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I called Horizon. They told me to adjust the servo arm. He told me to turn it out a turn or two. I think it should go in. Makes no difference now for a few days. When I tried to pop off the ball link I broke the ball right off the swash plate. I don't know if it maybe had a little crack in it or I just broke it. Another call to Horizon and they are sending me a new swash plate no charge. Can't be their customer service. I hope I have better luck with the new one.We have a Great country Because we have Great People
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01-01-2011 02:29 PM  9 years ago
erichevy

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I also try'd it with 2/3 turns in on elevator rod.
It is excactly like hovering with a vary bad trim.
Noticed not an improvement I was hoping for.
On the otherhand,.. on the aileron it is crazy fast. (also before the elev. rod shortening)
Maybe you've a better expierience dlflyer.

Eric,
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01-01-2011 08:20 PM  9 years ago
dlflyer

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Eric, I have not tried it yet. Still waiting on my swash plate to show up in the mail. If it didn't work for you it most likely won't work for me. This seems to be a problem with the msr. In todays world most people don't have EXTRA cash to burn. If I can't fix this thing soon I will take it back and get my money back. They say they test fly everyone before it leaves the factory. I guess we know thats not the case. We have a Great country Because we have Great People
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01-03-2011 04:51 PM  9 years ago
Vader1

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Battery Position
Here is a pic of my Blade MSR with a 150 mAh 12C battery mounted way forward in the heli. I trimmed off the stock battery tray and no longer use the stock battery (It's too light) . This heli shreds my living room up like this, it's wild. With the stock battery in the stock position it is fine for your first few flights and people that are just starting out.

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01-07-2011 08:21 PM  9 years ago
dlflyer

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OK. My swash plate showed up yesterday. I got it swaped out last night. Waste of time. FF still sucks on low rates. All other right stick moves are awsome. Going to add nose wieght tonight. A few other questions. I have full left rudder trim and I still have to hold left stick to hold the nose straight. I have the trim set to the middle when I plug in the batt. Seems strange that the msr wants to yaw right when the main rotor turns clockwise. Maybe because the main motor is mounted upside down and the torque from it is causing the problem. The tail rotor has also started to pulse when I give a right (if I am remembering correctly) but its pulsing anyway.We have a Great country Because we have Great People
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01-18-2011 05:08 AM  9 years ago
1Adam12

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I was gradually getting worse and worse forward flight out of mine. Checked it and found the starboard side control arm from the servo was slightly stripped and out of adjustment. Probably from a crash. Bought new ones and it flys forward quite well again. It looks to me as though both servo control arms should be almost exactly the same length if adjusted properly.
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