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01-20-2010 03:39 PM  8 years agoPost 1
s74rchild

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SO, I just bought an MSR a few days ago. I got it as a counterpoint to my trex 250; I wanted something hassle free. Over the past few days I crashed it a few times, normally I'd set it back on the ground and it continued to fly fine. But yesterday I noticed that it hardly goes forward at all. I have to apply full forward cyclic. Now let me note that it is very responsive going backwards.

I have tried or ensured:

trimming on the TX
brass washers are there
no broken links or parts in the head
swash plate is snapped together
anti rotation is functional
servo throw is equal
used the swashplate tool to get the correct spacing
battery is in all the way
replaced the flybar (this helped a little bit)
everything in the head moves freely

I'm a bit stumped here. I thought I should try replacing the whole head assembly. I don't know.

Has anyone else had this problem?? let me know what you think.

Thanks

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01-20-2010 04:25 PM  8 years agoPost 2
2low

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Have you checked your swash plate? I had the same problem and found that the swash plate seperated ,so I simply snapped back in. I have sense bought the microheli swash and it has made it fly better.

Got to have my cup of heli in the morning.

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01-20-2010 10:20 PM  8 years agoPost 3
Wamp

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More forward
I had this trouble. It was the swash plate seperating. The bearing was also loud. E-flight sent me a fresh one free! Great, I think all you have to do is put some ca or hit it with a soldering iron(peen over some plastic to keep it from seperating).
If you arre set up to use throttle hold, try moving the sticks and see what is actually happing with the servoes. Any dirt (grit, hair, dust, buggered plastic) in the gears or in the linier part will inhibit travel. Look at the top of the servo there is a little stop on top. Spares are included in the kit. If those stops have drifted, or gone missing, there will be less, or no throw.
Make sure the gears, both pinion and bull have not moved. They can move up and bind on the motor or servo. Or they can actually disengage. Yup! look at the top again, too much play?
If you don't have radio enough to set up for throttle hold, be care full and buget that before long. Chris

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01-21-2010 03:00 AM  8 years agoPost 4
s74rchild

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Thanks guys for giving me some input. I just got home and looked over everything. Seems like the swashplate is very much together. I tried to separate it, but no luck. It seems pretty tight. Also, I checked the servo retainer things. They are on tight as well. No play. I'm not really sure what to do now. Maybe I'll call Eflite tomorrow. Kinda pissed off about this...

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01-21-2010 02:04 PM  8 years agoPost 5
skeppley

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Try lifting up gently on the entire swash.
Reach your thumb and pointer finger over the top of the head and grab underneath the swash and gently lift up. My friend had the same problem, and doing this lifted everything back up into place. You should feel the entire assembly move

'Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterward.'

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01-21-2010 02:16 PM  8 years agoPost 6
Wamp

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My #2 unit takes a lot of forward trim. Iv been thinking it is time to shorten the right side servo link.
Good luck with E-flight. Chris

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02-14-2010 01:27 PM  8 years agoPost 7
Top End

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flight forward
My MSR does not like going forward as well.

I have put 1.5 grams blue tack in canopy nose, I do fly in some wind hence weight. It is flying better. why so much I shrink wraped tail motor wires small weight in arse end (hanger rash you know)

Have moved links to outer ball link on swash plate have not tried yet.
Other wise any help PLEASE

Cheer's
Top End

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02-14-2010 01:33 PM  8 years agoPost 8
neilg.

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what radio are you using?

if it is the non srock radio give it negative expo or positive expo depending on which radio it is.

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02-14-2010 01:40 PM  8 years agoPost 9
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Darwin

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MY tx DX6i
For this radio which way - or +

Thanx Top End

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02-14-2010 08:43 PM  8 years agoPost 10
neilg.

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i use -35 on the dx7.

move the ball links to the other position.

flip gear channel to 0.

i am not an expert.

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02-15-2010 08:18 AM  8 years agoPost 11
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Darwin

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Well I have never used eXpo SO we plunged on IN elevator now has -60
Wow big diff.,have also followed up other settings its not to bad now,
Like the little terrier.

Cheer's Top End

PS give me MORE

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02-16-2010 12:58 AM  8 years agoPost 12
Foz

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Earth

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Try rebinding to the radio. I had a similar issue when I first got mine and fixed it by rebinding.

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02-16-2010 02:27 AM  8 years agoPost 13
s74rchild

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So it's been a while since I started this thread, but I tried messing around with the swash, tried pulling it up and checking to see that it's indeed not separated. That didn't work so I bought an aluminum swash as well as adjusting the ball link. The thing is, whenever I think I have the adjustment right, the heli will then have poor reward flight. I'm gonna try changing settings on the radio. We'll see what happens...

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02-16-2010 03:47 PM  8 years agoPost 14
skeppley

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If you cant figure it out, I am not too far from ya.
If you ever have spare time on the weekend and wanna head north to the snow, send me a PM

'Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterward.'

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02-22-2010 01:28 PM  8 years agoPost 15
Wamp

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I thought my #2 mSR was over this but it's back. I have not played with expo yet. Just when ya think it's licked! Chris

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02-25-2010 05:48 PM  8 years agoPost 16
rumsnipe

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San Diego, CA

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I had the same problem and it just so happened that all of the screws that hold the servos to the 5 in 1 were all loose, tighened them up and back in the saddle again. I did not see this mentioned before in this thread, so if it was i apoligize.

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12-17-2010 09:12 PM  7 years agoPost 17
erichevy

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Zevenhoven The Netherlands

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My mini msr has the same habit of hardly flying forward same as the topic starter.
Is this a natural habit of the mini msr or not?
When using aileron left or right is shoots away! But not when giving elevator.

Eric.

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12-20-2010 07:50 PM  7 years agoPost 18
Vader1

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Move battery forward
If you fly your MSR outside and you can't get good FFF try moving your battery forward by attaching velcro under the canopy. Mess around with the battery location until you can get better FFF and still have good reverse cyclic. Also try giving it more throttle while you give it forward cyclic at the same time.

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12-20-2010 08:42 PM  7 years agoPost 19
erichevy

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That's not going to help sorry..
I will totally run out of backward cyclic if I try that.
Btw, welcome here on Runryder Vader1

Eric.

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12-21-2010 09:45 PM  7 years agoPost 20
Vader1

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Try it you will have better FFF for sure.
Move the batt only slightly forward than the stock location. The heli is fighting the torque and weight of the tail motor. You will not run out of rear cyclic, The tail motor will help it come back. This combined wih giving it throttle while giving it forward cyclic will help you out because it is a fixed pitch. Thanks for the welcome on RR but I'm actualy a very old member. I left for a few years and was unable to use my old handle. I have been flying RC helis for over 13 years now. I have a huge amount of knowledge with them. I had the same problem with FFF outside with slight wind. Moving the batt forward will help on this little heli. I started flying helis when gyros were mechanical so I have been through a lot. Had over 30 plus helis over the years. I have the MSR for some indoor fun. Been adding weight to the nose of helis for years mostly to get the center of gravity to be at the main shaft. That works good for large helis but this little thing needs a little help to get going. Mine is mostly stock and moving the batt forward gets it moving into FFF much easier.

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