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01-20-2010 07:28 PM  8 years agoPost 21
nick79$

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Yeah, we can force WalMart into a UNION SHOP and put more people out of work because of increased costs and hurt the economy worse. Remember the position of the auto makers?

Would you rather do that?

People that work at WalMart have a choice to work there or not.
Dosent matter how many people they employ, if they cant afford to pay their bills,,, what does that help. You don't need a union to bring FAIR pay, just senseable corp. managment. My brother works there now after WM came to town and one of the many business closed he worked at. True, its his choice to work there but its about the only choice he has. After he pays his utilities and food expenses he can hardly afford to shop there. If they paid better, the people would have more money to buy other things to help this economy.

I could be wrong but wasnt Sam Walton one of the richest people in America

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01-20-2010 07:34 PM  8 years agoPost 22
EvoFlight50

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People talkng about their unfair pay have no idea what they're talking about. How much do you expect a retail store to pay an employee? They pay no different than a grocery store, or any other retail store. There are very few, if any, retail stores that pay their employees anywhere near enough to live on.

Are we expecting a store to pay a cashier or a stock person enough to buy a house and support a family or something? If you want a good quality of life work on getting a job at a better place than a Walmart and stop complaining about them, they're not the problem, people are the problem. It's funny how everyone is so quick to point the finger and play the blame game.

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01-20-2010 10:13 PM  8 years agoPost 23
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Our problem is a combination of alot of things but the root is.Corporate greed,Government that is too big and greedy,Everybody wants instant gratification.The kicker is we all see it and nobody seems to want to unite as one and envoke some real change and I'm not talking about this socalled change we just got rammed up our a$$es either.I have a failrly good paying job and I see pieces of it being sent to Mexico daily due to corporate greed.As stated above the average person cannot live on minimum wage and without decent manufacturing jobs what does the average person do?If manufacturing leaves you have little need for engineers or maintenance people.We can't all be doctors or lawyers what do you do?NAFTA hurt us all unless you own a company that outsourced everthing or is in the process of doing so.Then you may be set for the for seeable future have you thought of what your grandchildren will do?

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01-20-2010 10:32 PM  8 years agoPost 24
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Saying "Walmart is killing off our economy"

is like saying "spoons are making Risie O'Donel fat".

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01-20-2010 11:00 PM  8 years agoPost 25
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From my observation...

It seems some people’s opinion on Wal-Mart’s "low" pay is based primarily on the size of the corporation. As has been noted, Wal-Mart pays its employees a wage that is comparable to other retail stores (Lowes, Home Depot, Target, ect). The fact that the corporation is a huge and profitable behemoth should have nothing to do with its pay scale in reality.

I hear this same crap at work from the union employees who moan & think they should be paid more based on our profits and executive compensation.

My response is...

#1 Be happy you have a job
#2 If not happy with said job... find another that makes you happy
#3 If no other jobs are available... refer to #1

And I won't even get into the reasons some companies choose to move operations to other countries!


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01-20-2010 11:04 PM  8 years agoPost 26
fla heli boy

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When you start griping about your pay, the next question is: "well why don't you leave". The answer is: "well there's no other jobs for me". So to me, any job is better than no job. My biz has been in the toilet for 3-4 years now. Had to go to work for a while for one of my GC's as a Super. Guess what??? The guy offered me less than half of what I should've / would've gotten paid a few years ago when things were good. I took it. Had no choice. And was thankful I got it. Now he's ready to do the same thing again. Know what??? I'm gonna grit my teeth, take it in the shorts and say yes again. Wal-Mart is in business to make money, not to employ people. I won't shop there because all they sell is Chinese crap, but that's another story.
And BTW...retail has ALWAYS been a min. wage job and I mean ALWAYS.

PS - beat me to it bubba!!

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01-20-2010 11:09 PM  8 years agoPost 27
PBusch

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I still have a full set of teeth so I'm not qualified to shop there.

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01-20-2010 11:54 PM  8 years agoPost 28
Dilbeck

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Wal-Mart is in business to make money, not to employ people
If only you understood what you just wrote, You would not have printed it for everyone to see. Making money is an end result of what your doing correctly! Providing jobs or employing people is the end result of doing things correctly. If all your in bussiness for is making money then you will soon be with the unemployed! Satisfying the customer brings a repeat sale, again and again and again. Again, making money is the END result of ones efforts. Wal-Mart is not in business to make money. They are in business to please the customer, and if they please the customer they increase sales and in turn provide jobs. The end result is making money so they can repeat the process over and over and over....

Clint

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01-21-2010 12:20 AM  8 years agoPost 29
LonR

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Mike545
hate to say it, we caused it, society wanted cheap , well we got it. all the usa made products are gone.same with quality. now we got cheap and cheaper, cause Wal Mart ran everybody else out of business. now what are we going to do?
The US killed the economy,not some dumb store.Sent more troops somewhere they don't belong,raise taxes up more,give more money to other countries <--- thats killing our economy.People buy cheaper things because there forced to,not because they want to.Things are so bad people work to put gas in there car to drive to work.If there was no wall-mart or stores like it,things would be bad..

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01-21-2010 01:30 AM  8 years agoPost 30
PBusch

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Socialism is killing this country.

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01-21-2010 04:42 AM  8 years agoPost 31
fla heli boy

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ummmmm, sorry, but Wal Mart DOES please their customers....by giving them the cheapest prices (not with service, etc.). And they don't necessarily do anything correctly, they just do it cheaper and in higher quantities. Their bottom line PROFIT is why they're in business, same as anybody else in business. People shop there because they can afford to. They don't go there to get waited on and spoiled. For that you go to the mall or a boutique and spend a ton more money. They fill that niche' is all.
Now, that being said, I don't agree with their business ideology, therefore I don't shop there. But their method is effective, whether you agree with it or not. JMHO
I think we agree Dil, just saying it a little different.

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01-21-2010 05:03 AM  8 years agoPost 32
EvoFlight50

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Again, making money is the END result of ones efforts. Wal-Mart is not in business to make money.
You couldn't be farther off base. Every company is in business to make money. Saying,
Wal-Mart is not in business to make money
is possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read, you can try to sound like a business teacher all you want, obviously you can't make money unless you please the customer.

If a person in not in a business to make money they should reevaluate what they're doing in business in the first place.

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01-21-2010 05:07 AM  8 years agoPost 33
Dennis (RIP)

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You couldn't be farther off base. Every company is in business to make money.
Nope, they are business to make a profit. Without it, they do not survive. Profit and survival is the key. Without profit on a continuing basis with possibly some bad times, they are dead. Pure and simple.

Making money is what you get in your paycheck. Without that, you certainly don't survive. At least not in the fashion you would like.

Making money & making a profit are 2 entirely different matters altogether.

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01-21-2010 05:22 AM  8 years agoPost 34
EvoFlight50

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Nope, they are business to make a profit. Without it, they do not survive. Profit and survival is the key. Without profit on a continuing basis with possibly some bad times, they are dead. Pure and simple.

Making money is what you get in your paycheck. Without that, you certainly don't survive. At least not in the fashion you would like.

Making money & making a profit are 2 entirely different matters altogether.
And how is profit measured? Last time I checked profit is measured by how much cash you have after bills are paid. You can argue symantics all you want, a company is in business to make money, plain and simple.

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01-21-2010 08:32 AM  8 years agoPost 35
shawmcky

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Announced today
China is about to overtake Japan as the worlds second largest economy,thats official.A chinese government official at a celebration party quipped,we would like to thank those western companies and consumers that have taken advantage of our manufacturing resources to support our communist regime and make this possible(to the sound of laughter),to think that a few years ago this would have been unthinkable.I think i can now see where Obama is coming from,if you cannot beat them join them

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01-21-2010 01:43 PM  8 years agoPost 36
fla heli boy

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unfortunately that is EXACTLY what Obama is thinking...

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01-21-2010 06:37 PM  8 years agoPost 37
hootowl

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Walmart trains their underpaid workers how to apply for public assistance. So in a sense, us taxpayers help Walmart destroy us through liberalism.
OK, lets see some evidence of that.
http://www.dsausa.org/lowwage/walma...rt%20study.html

Main Findings:

* Reliance by Wal-Mart workers on public assistance programs in California comes at a cost to the taxpayers of an estimated $86 million annually; this is comprised of $32 million in health related expenses and $54 million in other assistance.

* The families of Wal-Mart employees in California utilize an estimated 40 percent more in taxpayer-funded health care than the average for families of all large retail employees.

* The families of Wal-Mart employees use an estimated 38 percent more in other (non-health care) public assistance programs (such as food stamps, Earned Income Tax Credit, subsidized school lunches, and subsidized housing) than the average for families of all large retail employees.

* If other large California retailers adopted Wal-Mart’s wage and benefits standards, it would cost taxpayers an additional $410 million a year in public assistance to employees.

http://wakeupwalmart.com/facts/

http://www.commonplacebook.com/curr...rt_vs_targ.shtm

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01-21-2010 06:39 PM  8 years agoPost 38
EvoFlight50

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So what would you like, Walmart to pay their employees as though they are engineers? Where you do get this underpaid crap? They pay the same exact wages of other comparable stores, get a clue.

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01-21-2010 06:39 PM  8 years agoPost 39
nick79$

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WOW!! That would be called proof.. for whoever asked!! Read the rest of the stats! I had no idea it was this bad!!!

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01-21-2010 06:41 PM  8 years agoPost 40
nick79$

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So what would you like, Walmart to pay their employees as though they are engineers?
It would be nice if they paid them at least a fair living wage instead of making them live off from the government. (US)/ME

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