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01-20-2010 04:34 AM  8 years agoPost 1
puma1824

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I had a local machinist friend make some prototype Raptor 90se flybarless control arms to be used with stock R90se arms and head. Impressively he made the arms, made a new swashdriver, and cut the flybar carrier off the head, and installed the stock button in it's place in his basement using small "one off" machining tools. He made them to the optimized FBL length after playing around with different lengths on the bench. I think they turned out great. (see pics)

Just wanted to post and give props to my machinist friend. Thanks Ed!!!

Hey Thunder Tiger, if you're listening...wouldn't it be cool if you had an available FBL head See below how it "could" look like.


More pics here:

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01-20-2010 11:00 AM  8 years agoPost 2
Pablo-L

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Nice Job of your machinist friend
Wich FBL system are you going to use?
I will be waiting to see more!
Regards,
Pablo.

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01-20-2010 11:17 AM  8 years agoPost 3
puma1824

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Nice Job of your machinist friend
Wich FBL system are you going to use?
I will be waiting to see more!
Regards,
Pablo.
I currently use a VBar (black sensor). Works great. I may try other systems as well.

More pics of layout:

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01-21-2010 01:21 AM  8 years agoPost 4
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grips
when can i get a set

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01-21-2010 01:25 AM  8 years agoPost 5
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get in line!
After me haha

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01-21-2010 03:10 AM  8 years agoPost 6
Maxime30

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Puma,

Are you still at 39mm? I haven't had a chance to testfly my FBL R90 yet, when I'm not at work the weather is crappy...

Max

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01-21-2010 03:18 AM  8 years agoPost 7
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Yup still at 39mm but I'm going to experiment with other lengths as well. I have a set of 38mm I need to pickup from my friend.

I believe anywhere between 37-38mm is the best setup to avoid any possible extreme angles from the swash.

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01-22-2010 01:07 PM  8 years agoPost 8
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guys we need the stuff as soon as you can the 2010 season is coming this looks like the way to go, if i can help in any way ask Dino

i am in line and it starts behind the capt ill be try out for the XFC this year colin just to show you young guns that the old dogs still lead the pack

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01-23-2010 07:55 AM  8 years agoPost 9
Costas

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Looks like 2010 will be the year of the Flybarless machines...

Someone is surely going to have to produce these on a larger scale...

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01-23-2010 12:48 PM  8 years agoPost 10
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guys we need the stuff as soon as you can the 2010 season is coming this looks like the way to go, if i can help in any way ask Dino

i am in line and it starts behind the capt ill be try out for the XFC this year colin just to show you young guns that the old dogs still lead the pack
Looks like 2010 will be the year of the Flybarless machines...

Someone is surely going to have to produce these on a larger scale...
Looks like someone's been listening Check out

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01-23-2010 07:11 PM  8 years agoPost 11
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Nice

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01-24-2010 02:15 AM  8 years agoPost 12
Costas

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Sweet..

I currently utilise a G-Force Flybar head on my R90 and I have been impressed with its performance.

Looks like I'll order a Flybarless version...

Thanks for the pics!

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01-24-2010 02:31 AM  8 years agoPost 13
puma1824

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Just ordered two heads. Maybe now I won't be as scared to wreck since my present head is a custom one time build / machining job. Looks like the head bolt on / clamp design will be more secure than my stock head.

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01-24-2010 11:22 AM  8 years agoPost 14
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It looks like the stock head block has more contact with the mast. The head you show has no clamp up area below the drive bolt where as the stock head has material used for clamp up under the phase ring.
Maybe it is just my perception and you drill anew mast hole and then shove the mast in deeper?

Can you acquire the grip plates by themselves for those that just want that part?

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01-24-2010 03:26 PM  8 years agoPost 15
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It looks like the stock head block has more contact with the mast. The head you show has no clamp up area below the drive bolt where as the stock head has material used for clamp up under the phase ring.
Maybe it is just my perception and you drill anew mast hole and then shove the mast in deeper?

Can you acquire the grip plates by themselves for those that just want that part?
Not sure about buying the grip plates separate. Maybe shoot them an email. Let us know what you find out

As for the head clamp design,from my understanding it has a better clamping / solid design than the stock head. The clamp design is the same design that they've been using on their nice flybarred head.

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01-25-2010 07:21 PM  8 years agoPost 16
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Looks like I may have to get the Rappy up and running again.

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01-26-2010 11:46 AM  8 years agoPost 17
Costas

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It looks like the stock head block has more contact with the mast. The head you show has no clamp up area below the drive bolt where as the stock head has material used for clamp up under the phase ring.
Maybe it is just my perception and you drill anew mast hole and then shove the mast in deeper?

Can you acquire the grip plates by themselves for those that just want that part?
The G-Force head does have a substantial area where it clamps around the mast. If you look carefully at the photo posted above you can see two bolts which are just above the 'Jesus' bolt. Those two bolts facilitate the clamping arrangement. IMO it is slightly better than the stock head with the ring clamp but the stock head clamping setup is also very good anyway.

No drilling etc is required - It simply slides straight on to the correct depth.

Note as per Puma's post below - The flybar conversion arms are specifically for the flybarless setup due to their longer reaching arms in an aid to gain better FBL resolutuion.

Looks like their website has now been amended to reflect this.

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01-26-2010 04:58 PM  8 years agoPost 18
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The grips are available on their own as a pair - Just refer to their website.
The arms on their website are not the same as the one in the flybarless kit. The flybarless kit has longer arms optimized for flybarless.

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01-27-2010 01:10 AM  8 years agoPost 19
Costas

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Thanks Puma - Have edited my post to reflect this. Also note that G-FORCE website has now had extra text added to the grips and FBL conversion kit to highlight this.

I wonder which version of the rotor grip posts are being used to achieve zero delta? In the photos they look longer than stock - I think there was a difference in length between the stock Rappy and either the 3D or SE version - I'll need to verify this.

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01-27-2010 02:02 AM  8 years agoPost 20
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Really nice job Puma, congratulations, i love Raptor
If you can, post some fly vids.
Regards,
Pablo.

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