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01-21-2010 07:48 PM  8 years agoPost 81
evo4ever

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Point proven, answered OCB's question directly and his next post is a half wit sarcastic remark. Liberals do not debate they insult and offer half baked truths

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01-21-2010 08:35 PM  8 years agoPost 82
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nuclear option
What does that mean ?????

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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01-21-2010 08:51 PM  8 years agoPost 83
OzarkCopterBum

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Guess who????

Watch at YouTube

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01-21-2010 09:56 PM  8 years agoPost 84
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Obama to focus hard on economy after Democratic loss
DUUUUUUUU

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01-21-2010 10:01 PM  8 years agoPost 85
hootowl

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This countries deficit was 3% of the economy when Obama took office a year ago.

It's now 11%

Unprecedented. He is purposely collapsing our economy so he can take it over. I think they're calling it "progressive" liberalism.

Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep

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01-21-2010 10:23 PM  8 years agoPost 86
OzarkCopterBum

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This countries deficit was 3% of the economy when Obama took office a year ago.

It's now 11%

Unprecedented. He is purposely collapsing our economy so he can take it over. I think they're calling it "progressive" liberalism.
Libertarians beg to differ. Do facts even concern you or do you just say whatever pops into your brain??

Cato Institute

Who's To Blame for the Massive Deficit?

by Daniel J. Mitchell

Daniel J. Mitchell is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute.

Added to cato.org on December 29, 2009

The temporary increase in the national debt ceiling approved this month — combined with the prospect of a huge trillion-dollar-plus increase early next year — has once again prompted criticisms of President Obama for runaway spending and record deficits.

All this borrowing is only necessary, we are told, because Obama ran up $1.4 trillion of debt in his first year.

It's true that the White House is pushing big spending items, not least of which is his multitrillion-dollar scheme for government-run health care. But many critics, either out of ignorance or malice, are blaming Obama for deficits that are not his fault.

Some Republicans, for instance, complain that Obama tripled the budget deficit in his first year. This assertion is understandable, since the deficit jumped from about $450 billion in 2008 to $1.4 trillion in 2009. As this chart illustrates, with the Bush years in green, it appears as if Obama's policies have led to an explosion of debt.

But there is one rather important detail that makes a big difference. The chart is based on the assumption that the current administration should be blamed for the 2009 fiscal year.

While this might make sense to a casual observer, it is largely untrue. The 2009 fiscal year began Oct. 1, 2008, nearly four months before Obama took office. The budget for the entire fiscal year was largely set in place while President Bush was in the White House.

So if we update the chart to show the Bush fiscal years in green, we can see that Obama is mostly right in claiming that he inherited a mess.

Some readers, particularly Republicans, are probably thinking I'm letting Obama off the hook too easily.

What about the so-called stimulus, they will ask, with its $787 billion price tag? Or the omnibus fiscal-year 2009 appropriations bill? And how about Cash for Clunkers and Obama's expansion of the children's health insurance program? Didn't these all boost spending in 2009?

The answer is yes. But these boondoggles amounted to just a tiny percentage of FY2009 spending — about $140 billion out of a $3.5 trillion budget — as the pie chart nearby illustrates.

There are some subjective aspects to this estimate, to be sure — I didn't count $25 billion in extra defense spending, for example, because Bush would surely have asked for that as well; ditto bailout for car companies — but the net effect of all the judgment calls isn't to Bush's disadvantage.

Big government won't work any better for Obama than it did for Bush.

On the revenue side, for better or worse, Obama hasn't tinkered much. Obama's so-called stimulus did include a handful of Keynesian-style tax cuts, but his CHIP bill contained some tax increases. The net effect is a slight reduction in tax revenue for FY2009, but not enough to make a noticeable difference.

So what's the final score? Let's use an analogy. Obama's FY2009 performance is like a relief pitcher who enters a game in the fourth inning trailing 19-0 and allows another run to score. The extra run is nothing to cheer about, of course, but fans should be far angrier with the starting pitcher.

That having been said, Obama has been serving up softballs to the special interests in Washington, so his earned run average may actually wind up being worse than his predecessor's. He promised change, but it appears that Obama wants to be Bush on steroids.

This is where Obama's critics should be directing their attention. Big government won't work any better for Obama than it did for Bush. America's fiscal problem is excessive government spending, and deficits are merely a symptom of that underlying disease. If Obama wants to rejuvenate the economy, he should abandon the Bush policies of big government and interventionism and instead go with free market policies that actually work.

So which heading do you fall under? Ignorance or malice??

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01-21-2010 10:35 PM  8 years agoPost 87
SSN Pru

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how come you didn't 'bold' the stuff about Obama wanting to be Bush on steroids with respect to spending?

picking and choosing amongst the facts to prove your point makes you look pretty dumb.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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01-21-2010 10:46 PM  8 years agoPost 88
FenwayRick

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That was about as dumb as teaching remedial classes at Cucumber college.

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01-21-2010 10:50 PM  8 years agoPost 89
hootowl

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Do they teach how to polish the cucumber?

Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep

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01-21-2010 10:50 PM  8 years agoPost 90
OzarkCopterBum

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how come you didn't 'bold' the stuff about Obama wanting to be Bush on steroids with respect to spending?

picking and choosing amongst the facts to prove your point makes you look pretty dumb.
Picking and choosing?? I pasted the original link and copied the complete article minus the graphs. The bold part was in reference to hooties statement.

Are you on crack or what??

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01-21-2010 11:12 PM  8 years agoPost 91
OzarkCopterBum

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picking and choosing amongst the facts to prove your point makes you look pretty dumb.
What makes people look "pretty dumb" is throwing out these ridiculous statements without any facts at all and then others trying to justify them with petty nit picking about whats bolded or not.

Puhleeeeze!!!!

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01-21-2010 11:25 PM  8 years agoPost 92
hootowl

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Notice BBC isn't giving this story much run time. The British are extremely disappointed like you Ozark. All they print is what he's doing (not doing) next. It's kinda funny. BBC has no mention whatsoever on it's front page today about ObamaCare. The liberal media is so biased. It sucks that you have to pick and choose news feeds to get the real news.

Most of this country was/is against Obama and his liberal sidekicks health care plan but they said they were going to ram it through anyway.

Now they can stick a fork in it.

YEEEEEE HAAAAA

The rise and fall of ObamaCare and the democratic party 2009.

A book soon to be published (Comedy)

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01-22-2010 12:13 AM  8 years agoPost 93
OzarkCopterBum

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And in your post before this one, you said a bunch of other crap that proved to be B.S. You seem to confuse your opinions with actual facts.

So why should anyone with a lick of sense believe you now?

EDIT

Fixed the last line for Gyrofreak.

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01-22-2010 12:21 AM  8 years agoPost 94
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What a wonderful slap in the face too the kool aid drinking candy corns on the left.

I hope the fat pos drunk murderer is rolling in his grave thinking about Mr.Brown.
The rise and fall of ObamaCare and the democratic party 2009
We could only wish it would happen tommorrow.

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01-22-2010 01:34 AM  8 years agoPost 95
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I find it interesting that the far left just can't believe that the majority of American are not communists!

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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01-22-2010 03:00 AM  8 years agoPost 96
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sometimes I think the Bum is really a Neocon and just posts to rile up the right. What do you guys think??? Either that or he's really from Vermont.

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01-22-2010 03:15 AM  8 years agoPost 97
Dennis (RIP)

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Nah, he ain't from Vermont.

He's from Massechusets.

Think about it.

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01-22-2010 03:31 AM  8 years agoPost 98
GyroFreak

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So why should we believe you now?
Whats this "we" bit. I think you are alone, OCB.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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01-22-2010 03:41 AM  8 years agoPost 99
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Video showing liberals Chris Matthews and Howard Dean call each other crazy (and they're not kidding):

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-f...ach-other-crazy

90% of life is "showing up"

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01-22-2010 03:43 AM  8 years agoPost 100
fla heli boy

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who'd have ever thought you would've said they were BOTH right???

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