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01-18-2010 06:22 PM  8 years agoPost 1
liljalepeno

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Hi Folks,

I'd like to tame down my 30 raptor so I can teach my friend some basic hovering (via buddy box)

Is there some advise you can offer on head setup that I can do.
I have extra flybar weights I can add, heavier paddles etc. but is there somehting that can be done to the head geometry to make the heli super stable?

I can reduce throes via ATV's or Dual rates on the transmitter but weary of that in case he gets into trouble and needs full deflections to recover.

Very interested in what advice anyone can offer.

Thanks !

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01-18-2010 06:30 PM  8 years agoPost 2
Brokenlink

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Dial in some expo. that will make it soft around neutral but still have full throws.Also put soft dampeners in the head.Do you have the stock head or one that you can move the balls on the mixers?

Jamie Griffith

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01-18-2010 07:46 PM  8 years agoPost 3
Tom Wrobleski

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Depends on what radio you have. On a Futaba 9C you can set up the students radio with little throws and the instructor with full throws.
Best way take cyclic throws out is to dial down the end points. This way as he progresses you do not have to readjust all the linkage.

If he is just trying to learn to hover you will have a hard time saving a heli when its that low to the ground. Usually buddy boxes do not come into play until they are ready for forward flight. I would dial down the cyclic throws, only give him 8degrees of positive and three degrees of negative. Also slow down the head speed to 1700 rpm this will make things nice and slow for him.

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01-19-2010 02:35 AM  8 years agoPost 4
Thomas Moore

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I would add expo (10-30%) and then reduce the control throws maybe 5pts. The expo will make the biggest difference, and he will still have 90% of the throws in case a fast recovery is needed.

As for the Instructor radio, leave everything as you would like it.

Thomas Moore Team Avant Team Edge

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01-19-2010 05:43 PM  8 years agoPost 5
liljalepeno

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Thanks guys for the quick responses and good advice !

I have the stocke Raptor 30 V1, so don't think I can move the balls on the head. What would that do....would it make control response less sensitive?

I am flying with a DX7 so think I will go the expo route and dial down the throws 5-10 points. Head speed will definatley drop down a bit.

Many thanks !

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01-19-2010 05:48 PM  8 years agoPost 6
Brokenlink

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If you had the adjustable head you could move the balls to the outside hole on the flybar side and closer on the swash side.
make control response less sensitive
yes

Jamie Griffith

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01-20-2010 01:48 AM  8 years agoPost 7
dkshema

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Flybar weights will tame it down, as will expo. No need to start messing around with your setup and radio. After all, you still want to be able to fly it too, don't you?

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01-26-2010 01:23 PM  8 years agoPost 8
liljalepeno

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Thanks guys, have now tamed down the heli.
Extra flybar weights, 28% expos feels very nice and easy.
Have reduced the rates 15 points and it is still geting lots of throw so I'm happy with how it feels at that.

I can fly it too, more scale like now, which is good.

Really appreciate the help !

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01-26-2010 02:57 PM  8 years agoPost 9
Cowjock

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Set up dual rates. 100% on high rates, dial it down to 50 or 60% on low rates for cyclic. If it's to soft just increase the low rates.

Damn that ground is hard! When's the right time to get out of this money sucking hobby?

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