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01-17-2010 06:38 PM  8 years agoPost 21
RcNutTz

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are you guys serious? not
'abusing the policy'
gift "definition" something voluntarily transferred by one person to another without "compensation"

if thats what you want to do fine but don't say your not "ABUSING" the policy you are even if you are in denial

Denial "Definition" refusal to admit the truth or reality

not out to upset any one but at least be honest about it

yes dear the hobby shop again

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01-17-2010 06:41 PM  8 years agoPost 22
hootowl

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Does it mean you are breaking some law... like speeding or talking on hand held cell phone while driving?

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01-17-2010 06:45 PM  8 years agoPost 23
Jeff polisena

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This is why good things dont last

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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01-17-2010 07:02 PM  8 years agoPost 24
ov10mech

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I just called Paypal. I asked the customer service representative if I send funds as a personal gift to pay for something do they consider it to be abusing or against policy. He reminded me that using this option offers no protection and some sellers are requesting this to avoid fees. I asked again, if I assume all risk as the buyer and trust the seller, do you have a problem with it or consider it against policy? He responded no, as long as you understand protection is lost.

The decision should be up to the buyer, period.

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01-17-2010 07:16 PM  8 years agoPost 25
RcNutTz

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hootowl
Does it mean you are breaking some law... like speeding or talking on hand held cell phone while driving?
my point was to admit what your doing, if you was speeding would you say it was ok I was only doing 15mph over the limit officer?

yes dear the hobby shop again

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01-17-2010 07:18 PM  8 years agoPost 26
jschenck

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Paypal has a very large campus about 1 mile from my house. I've watched them just about double that campus size in the last couple of years. They have basketball courts, a small lake and some very nice looking buildings. They are not making dumb business decisions! If you send money via PP personal transaction to/from folks they will still make money.

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01-17-2010 07:32 PM  8 years agoPost 27
Mike0251

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Exactly, as a gift the sendee has to pay the charge anyway so why the hell do it that way and have no protection (what little there is)? Either way someone is paying the fee, nobody is not getting out of that. Like pissing in the wind.
Good for them doubling their campus! Capitolism at its best. Could have easily been you or me that created that service, unfortunatley I missed the boat.

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01-17-2010 07:37 PM  8 years agoPost 28
hootowl

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The sender never pays a fee do they?

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01-17-2010 07:41 PM  8 years agoPost 29
CoronaL

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I'll leave it up to the buyer of my items. If they want to cover the 3% fee, then regular, if they don't then gift. I'm already usually getting it jammed WAY up into the behind on the prices I have to sell stuff at discount just to sell it. Taking another 3% and usually covering shipping too, is just insanity sometimes.

If I'm buying something from someone, they usually have great feedback anyway, so I don't stress over it too much. I've gotten royally screwed buying a car through ebay/pp(long story) but ebay and PP didn't honor 1% of their claim to back the buyer in cases of dispute etc... IE buyer protection. Conversley, about 10-12 years ago I sold some computer parts to a guy. He later claimed it didn't arrive, then later claimed that his CC info was stolen and the whole transaction was fraud. I shipped to the given address in PP, and had my proof of shipping. Guess what PP did. They took the $ back, AND all the other $ I had in my account. They locked my account, and said I had to submit all my paperwork etc... to resolve the issue. I did, and they denied everything. I was hosed out of several hundred dollars for a $60 computer part, that I'm positive the douchebag I sold it to recieved it, and just decided he wanted someone else to pay for it.

I try to keep my pp account empty, AND the savings account just above the bank minimum in case this ever happens again. I'm not out to hose anyway, and will try to work with people should a problem arise. PP protection to me is just a scam to get more business, not an actual committment to the buyers/sellers etc...

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01-17-2010 07:53 PM  8 years agoPost 30
JasonJ

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I don't mind paying the 3% fee if the buyer asks. At first I thought it sucked, but after thinking about it, it's a bargain. I don't know about anyone else, but my time has value, and it combined with fuel prices and hassle dealing with idiots in stores is a lot more than the 3% someone charges me to sit on my ass, buy something, and get it a few days later.

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01-17-2010 08:00 PM  8 years agoPost 31
RcNutTz

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CoronaL
paypal is not perfect i to had my nightmares with them but the last few years they seam to have got it together I sold a peace of equipment for $2,500 to a guy that got damaged in shipping because I sent it to a confirmed address they paid him and didn't bother me for one cent of the money i did have to send them info they requested but that was it!

yes dear the hobby shop again

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01-17-2010 08:36 PM  8 years agoPost 32
Helico-pteron

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If you try to gift a business, you pay the fee. If it is member to member, like here, nobody pays a fee.

When I sell on here or other sites, you WILL gift me if you want the item. There are so many people willing to buy that I don't really give a sh*t whether you gripe about gifting or not.

Using the gift option is not "abusing" the system as someone else carelessly posted here. Maybe the O.P. prefers to pay late on his credit cards so his interest rates will go up and he gets a late payment fee. I mean, he wouldn't want to abuse the system right? Gettig all those low interest rates and paying before the due dates so he pays no interest at all. Now that's just down right abusive.

For those that don't want to gift, you can always send me a check and you definitely won't get any protection using that option.

Being an honest guy and selling, trading and buying from many people on here I don't have any problems.

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01-17-2010 08:43 PM  8 years agoPost 33
LonR

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I bought somthing off a member thats been here since 2002 and he had perfect feed back.Got the item,took it apart and it was not in the shape like he said.I made a PP calim asap and got my money back.If I sent money as a gift and he said it was perfect I would be screwed.I also seen members thats been here from 2001-2005 that has perfect feed back try to screw someone over.I don't care how trusting the person seems and im not sending money as a gift because its allways a gamble.I'll send money as a gift to someone I know but not to someone that ive been talking to over the net for 4 years or so or someone that has perfect feed back for the past 4-6 years.

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01-17-2010 09:19 PM  8 years agoPost 34
hootowl

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I bought a cell phone off a guy. He didn't send it. Claimed communication error but kept arguing. Still no phone. Paypal refunded me out of his account. This was the only time I had a dispute.

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01-17-2010 09:33 PM  8 years agoPost 35
McLovin

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If I want to avoid the charge.I just send or receive money as a "gift" and in return,send or receive the item as a gift.I see nothing wrong with that.

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01-17-2010 09:34 PM  8 years agoPost 36
RcNutTz

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you know I "might" be able to under stand this on an item that's a several hundred bucks but when your selling a $50 item and state I "must" gift the money for you to get an extra $2.75 (3.5% fee) to me being in "this" hobby is off the wall we blow lots of money on electronics, kits, blades and so on then to demand me to "gift" the money if the $2.75 means that much to you I'll buy else where if you stated "gift" and the 3.5% added up to $30 or more I can understand you looking to save that much but not for a few bucks and demand me to or I cant buy from you I'll pass on the item but that's just me, I guess some really need to pinch pennies to support there heli's I personally would not demand "gift" money for a couple of bucks i'd leave that up to the buyer

Helico-pteron
gift option is not "abusing" the system as someone else carelessly posted here.
you might be right after thinking about it you made it simple its a "LIE" to gift money for something you BOUGHT, its not a gift (cant wait to see how you try to tell me its not)

enjoy the day guys

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01-17-2010 10:14 PM  8 years agoPost 37
McLovin

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I wonder how many people are here fighting pro Paypal fees are claiming all sorts of BS deductions on their taxes. LOL

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01-17-2010 10:40 PM  8 years agoPost 38
LonR

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If its a $5.00 dollar or $800.00 dollar item,i'll pay the fee.Sure i'll send money as a gift as long as the seller ships first.

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01-17-2010 10:43 PM  8 years agoPost 39
raptorheli2

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you know I "might" be able to under stand this on an item that's a several hundred bucks but when your selling a $50 item and state I "must" gift the money for you to get an extra $2.75 (3.5% fee) to me being in "this" hobby is off the wall we blow lots of money on electronics, kits, blades and so on then to demand me to "gift" the money if the $2.75 means that much to you I'll buy else where if you stated "gift" and the 3.5% added up to $30 or more I can understand you looking to save that much but not for a few bucks and demand me to or I can buy from you I'll pass on the item but that's just me, I guess some really need to pinch pennies to support there heli's I personally would not demand "gift" money for a couple of bucks i'd leave that up to the buyer

Helico-pteron
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gift option is not "abusing" the system as someone else carelessly posted here.
you might be right after thinking about it you made it simple its a "LIE" to gift money for something you BOUGHT, its not a gift (cant wait to see how you try to tell me its not)
do you work for paypal or something? lol

cheers


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01-17-2010 11:45 PM  8 years agoPost 40
CoronaL

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I see it as a buyer's option. Usually the buyer is jamming you down on price anyway, so in that case, if they want to pay the 3% then I don't have a preference really. Actually probably would prefer the regular pp transaction as it's less work to ship items. Can link right off that to ship. But if they don't want to pay extra, then they can do the gift. I leave it up to them. They usually want the cheaper option, but it's up to them. I'm usually taking enough of a beating on the price of the item I really don't feel like eating more even if it only another $3-5, after losing 30-50% on stuff that's practically new, so be it, I'm not willing to go lower in many cases.

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