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01-17-2010 01:17 AM  8 years agoPost 1
LjCraft12

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Gonna start of with a quick update. Just left the mentors house, had a good time there talking heli's. I don't have anyone at the house to talk heli with for hours so it was good he is a good person and his wife is just as nice.

Anyways, for the argument at hand. One thing please don't resonde if your just gonna say are you stupid of course its skill thats not what I want and if this has been asked already o well sorry move on.

We were playing on some phoenix flight sim watching me crash and actually save it sometimes. We then went on to watching some youtube vids on some extreme 3d. Jimy came up with the conclusion that 3d is really nothing more than do crazy things and just compensating for it so that you don't crash. And that the more graceful flights and more smooth movements takes more of a "stick skill" then just moving them all over the place to stop from crashing.
I said I can agree to that when a heli is up in the air about 40-50ft cause you have a lil time to compesate for your misstakes. But when your doing crazy tricks 3 ft off the ground a true "stick skill" comes to play
I just wanna know what ya'll think is more of a skill and why?

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01-17-2010 01:25 AM  8 years agoPost 2
rotormonkey

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I think flying helis at all is a skill, regardless of how it's being done. They are also not making random stick movements, and recovering before putting it in. It takes a great deal of skill to fly smooth and precise, or to lay the smack down. imho, neither is MORE of a skill, they are just different skills.

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01-17-2010 01:28 AM  8 years agoPost 3
LjCraft12

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your right they are two different skills but if your good at both which is harder hight altitutde 3d or low?

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01-17-2010 01:33 AM  8 years agoPost 4
george0079

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I wouldn't say either one is more, or less difficult.

One is just gonna cost more from a dumb thumb

Hell... I can fix that.
Uh oh..
Nope.
It's ***ked!!!
RE-KIT!!!!!

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01-17-2010 01:33 AM  8 years agoPost 5
rotormonkey

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They're both equally difficult regardless of altitude. The only difference is when you're down low, there's no room for error, so you'd better know what you're doing.

If you make a mistake up high, you have lots of time to recover, so if you're not as good or as comfortable, you'll stay up high. The exact same skills are employed, low or high.

In theory if you can do it 100% of the time up high, and keep it controlled, then you can do the same down low.

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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01-17-2010 01:34 AM  8 years agoPost 6
LjCraft12

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thanks roto

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01-17-2010 01:38 AM  8 years agoPost 7
Yug

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Piro rainbows/tictocs/snakes etc is all skill, especially if it mm off the deck. However, non specific stick banging manouvers are different in that one is simply blasting around and trying to catch the heli just before disaster. In the modern day, the latter usually proceeds the former as pilots develop their skillz.

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01-17-2010 01:43 AM  8 years agoPost 8
JasonJ

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Watch any 3D vid, especially a Tareq vid or any of the pros that are doing their thing and do you really think they are just throwing the sticks around and then keeping themselves from crashing? I would say yes if you are talking about the amateur stick bangers, but the pros are always in control. As far as which is easier, high or low, they are the same. It's the margin for error that is a hair different.

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01-17-2010 02:39 AM  8 years agoPost 9
dkshema

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Skill. Practice. Hours and hours of practice. It's not luck, it's not just throwing the sticks around.

It's skill all the way up from building the heli, setting it up, tuning the motor, and finally, practice.

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01-17-2010 04:52 AM  8 years agoPost 10
alexz

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sim skill vs real wourld skill.
I see it all the time on the sim. There will be some one that can thrash the hile all around. But for the most part thier skill that they have learned is lacking in cyclic management. So there is no way that they can do the same things close to the ground in real life with out lousing head speed.You can set the sims up so that you can bog the engine. But if you don't practice that way then I guess you are never realy learning how to do the trick . That is unless your real hile doesn't bog at all. So yes both are skilled, just one more then the other.

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01-17-2010 05:35 AM  8 years agoPost 11
baby_zyklon

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The closer you are to the ground, the more skill, accurancy and flight correction you will need. At 10m high in the air, a small "mis-timing" input will drop your heli by 2m and you continue banging the sticks. At 1.5m off the ground, a tiny mistake will drive your heli into the ground.

High altitude 3d is a lot more simple. You just need to train your fingers movement into muscle memory in the sim and you should no problem attempting that move or at least, making your heli looks like it is doing what you are trying to do. Try the same thing at low level and you will probably crash. This is only true for 3d though. For f3c, whether it is high up or low down, fighting the heli to make it fly straight will take a lot of skill.

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01-17-2010 07:50 AM  8 years agoPost 12
Duckster

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got no idea, but somtime looking ppl flying with smoooth trasition it is relly entertaining, but when i flew my heli i tend to smack it down soo i will be paying attention more then as usual flight but doing aggrasive move somtime bored too, soo try to enjoy ur flight like doing big loop reverse and some hurricane, and u will enjoy more then u used too,

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01-17-2010 12:17 PM  8 years agoPost 13
Jeff polisena

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First its reaction until you are confident on maneuvers . After you get a rhythm down you know when a trick doesnt feel rite before you loose it beyond control and you transition into a different trick which you say "I meant to do that " but unless you are flying with seasoned pilots no one will notice.Yes there are times when you try anything to keep from crashing but there comes a time where that only happens on a mechanical failure because of skill .

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01-17-2010 01:12 PM  8 years agoPost 14
heli-cuzz

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Doesn't matter whether high or low. Its all skill. Sometimes being lucky helps, but skill is still the major factor in flying a heli.
No room for error down on the deck.
Everybody crashes, even the pros.

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01-17-2010 06:33 PM  8 years agoPost 15
djrformcar

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If you have ever seem the pros fly in person, your debate would be over. The pros can do the same flight over and over move for move.
My flights are more of the ramdom catches type.

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01-17-2010 06:42 PM  8 years agoPost 16
Jeff polisena

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Start fly ,repeat a thousand times and you will be that good .

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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