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01-17-2010 01:07 AM  8 years agoPost 1
HeliReno

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Hello everyone,

I have been away from the wonderfull world of R/C heli's for a good 6-years. I am getting back into heli's and need some help picking out a new 50 size heli. I am looking for one that can take some abuse, and one that will hold up. So since it have been awhile, all the help would be greatfull. Thanks for everyones time in advance.

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01-17-2010 01:11 AM  8 years agoPost 2
george0079

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That's a can of worms....

My vote goes to the Trex 600.

Inexensive, good quality, and parts are everywhere.

Hell... I can fix that.
Uh oh..
Nope.
It's ***ked!!!
RE-KIT!!!!!

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01-17-2010 01:13 AM  8 years agoPost 3
HeliReno

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Thats one I have been looking at, wasn't sure if the 600N or get the 600N LE kit?

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01-17-2010 01:16 AM  8 years agoPost 4
george0079

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Go for the LE kit. Just about everything you need is in there.

Hell... I can fix that.
Uh oh..
Nope.
It's ***ked!!!
RE-KIT!!!!!

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01-17-2010 01:22 AM  8 years agoPost 5
HeliReno

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Perfect, I was just checking those out. I am shopping around to see who has the best deal. I need to order Monday.

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01-17-2010 01:31 AM  8 years agoPost 6
rotormonkey

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There's no such thing as a heli that takes abuse. You touch the ground with the blades spinning and it's all over, it doesn't matter what you're flying.

If you're referring to helis with parts that will last longer, and require less maintenance, then imho the align is not the way to go. Don't get me wrong, they have their upsides like parts availability, and they're cheap. But that price tag comes at a cost, and that's quality.

Align is good bang for your buck, but if you want a heli with parts that will last look at just about any of the other high end 50s. Personally I fly a Raven 50 now, and I've been quite happy with it. The JR Vibes are nice, Freyas and a slew of others. Align is the low end of the high end birds.

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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01-17-2010 01:48 AM  8 years agoPost 7
HeliReno

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I wan't aware Align is the low end of the high end birds. I thought they where a very good quality heli.

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01-17-2010 02:01 AM  8 years agoPost 8
rotormonkey

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They ARE a good high end heli. But there are many others that are better. This is just my opinion. Take it for what it's worth.

Edit: Really for what they cost, they're a good deal. Not saying you shouldn't get one, but if longevity, and low maintenance is what you're looking for then look elsewhere.

If you're the type of guy that crashes a lot, then you'll never know the difference anyway, in which case you'll be further ahead in the long run because parts are cheap.

But if you don't crash much, and aren't replacing the parts anyway, you'll find the heads will develop slop quickly. Hell the 450 has slop right out of the box.

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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01-17-2010 02:24 AM  8 years agoPost 9
HeliReno

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We'll after talking to a few RR members I am going to go with 600N LE kit. Is there anything I just konw regarding this kit, like any other upgrades that would need to be done? Or just build it out of the box?

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01-17-2010 02:27 AM  8 years agoPost 10
george0079

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just build it right out of the box

Hell... I can fix that.
Uh oh..
Nope.
It's ***ked!!!
RE-KIT!!!!!

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01-17-2010 01:17 PM  8 years agoPost 11
JRjoe

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I agree, just build it right from the box and have fun.


JRjoe.....
Indoor plumbing??? No, we don't need that!!!

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01-17-2010 03:21 PM  8 years agoPost 12
jutrast

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I have a few recommendations on building the 600LE

1. Check the clutch diameter against the bell w/liner. Many have complained about the clutch grabbing late, and having to remove the clutch block to fix after maiden. Checking before installation is easy, and a TRex 700 liner is 0.15mm thicker and usually resolves this issue. You want the clutch to spin freely in the bell with a small gap.

2. If you are thinking about the metal clutch block, now is the time to do it... it's a pain to change later. This is more important on the 700 build where gear stripping is an issue, but I made this change on my 600s too.

3. I've been adding a header tank to mine... fuel pickup is not usually an issue, but a couple of unplanned autos made me rethink this.

The LE comes with the electronics, but not the motor and pipe. GrandRC has some great prices on the Align 50 and Align pipe. With the new .55/.56 on the market, these are priced to move.

Toby

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01-17-2010 03:46 PM  8 years agoPost 13
HeliReno

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Everyone thank you for all the information. Alot of things have changed over the years. Are the Align electronics really as good as I am hearing? The reason I am asking is that I already purchased JR servos, and some other gear already. So I really didn't need all the electronics that come with the kit. I see GrandRC sells the kits without. Sorry for all the questions.

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01-17-2010 03:54 PM  8 years agoPost 14
george0079

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The Align electronics aren't bad, at all. Best bang for the buck, IMO. Sure. There are better electronics available, but the Align electronics work great. Iv'e been running the servos for almost 2 years. No complaints.

Hell... I can fix that.
Uh oh..
Nope.
It's ***ked!!!
RE-KIT!!!!!

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01-17-2010 09:41 PM  8 years agoPost 15
GMPCOBRA

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il agree with george here but ya have to remember that there is no such thing as a low maintnance heli just do a good preflight inspection and build it right from the start. align makes good stuff
the only problem with the electronics that i have had an issue with is the 2 in 1 regulator and that was the earlie version.

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01-21-2010 02:14 PM  8 years agoPost 16
bolkow

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dont listen to any of them, a raptor 50 se is what you need.

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01-21-2010 03:04 PM  8 years agoPost 17
Cowjock

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Can't go wrong with a Raptor.

Damn that ground is hard! When's the right time to get out of this money sucking hobby?

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01-21-2010 03:38 PM  8 years agoPost 18
bolkow

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To be honest you will find most airfields and people therein can give you lots of advice support and help with a raptor simply because its so well known. I know its not the only helicopter but if you choose something else you may struggle to find such a wode support of previous knowledge.
My only other comment is that owning both a raptor 30 and a raptor 50se, you will notice the fuel burn rate on the 50 will be much higher. My 30 fliews around happily on fumes compared to the bigger bird, and it as much fun to fly and learn on.

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01-22-2010 01:26 AM  8 years agoPost 19
wifeorheli

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Hey helireno welcome back to helis!!!
Are you meeting with anyone in reno yet? Let me know I fly with about 11 guys out in mustang or in towm i mostly fly. we fly pretty much all align they are good quality helis and parts are cheap. If you wanna come out and meet up with me or us sometime you can see them in action. I would go with a .50 size for sure what did you used to fly before?

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02-02-2010 04:00 PM  8 years agoPost 20
HeliReno

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Thanks for all the help from everyone. I did get the Trex 600N LE and hopefully I can start the build this weekend. Work has been busy so havn't had that much time lately.

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