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01-15-2010 02:59 AM  8 years agoPost 1
Peter Wales

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The exact dates have not been decided yet, but they will be run during IRCHA. At the moment, the provisional plan is to have static on Wednesday 11th August, first round of flying on Thursday and the second on Friday. If we need a third round it will happen only with the top contenders on Saturday morning. Prizes will be given out on Saturday.

We want to do it in the middle of the IRCHA field for maximum exposure of scale models. The FAI guys will be elsewhere. We will get enough room to fly big models without the fear of 3D nutters overflying us but we have to be cognizant of the fact that there may be 50 scale guys and 1000 Alan Szabo wannabees so we cannot occupy the flight line for too long.

The organizers have seen the light and want to give maximum exposure to the scale models and are prepared to work with us as much as they can. So get your pride and joy waxed and ready to enter and please, please, practice before you get there and have your free flight schedule already planned out.

Peter Wales
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01-15-2010 03:35 AM  8 years agoPost 2
windy62

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Wow. Good way to make EVERYONE feel welcome.
3D nutters overflying us
1000 Alan Szabo wannabees
Is that the typical view of the "Scale Guys"?

windy62

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01-15-2010 07:07 AM  8 years agoPost 3
Copter Doctor

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nah windy, but it has always been that at many events, if you got your scaler flying you can always count on a 3d machine from the next flight station gyrating into your area uncomfortably close to your machine, a machine you dont want to have to yank and bank out of his way because it makes you anxious enough flying it
it happens to me all the time though i am sure i have busted my airpsace a time or two flying my scale machine as well (though i dont think it makes the 3der next to me nervous like it does me). i like to fly cross country with my rc helis
i am a lot more aware of the guy flying 3d at the flt stn next to me when i am flying my scale ship as opposed to when i am flyng my pod n boom machine.

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01-15-2010 01:31 PM  8 years agoPost 4
Havoc

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Is that the typical view of the "Scale Guys"?
It's the typical view of a lot of people both 3D and scale. There is just a certain percentage of folks who think the Jamboree is the place to be "discovered" so they fly above their skill level and cross into other people's flight boxes with reckless disregard and a complete lack of respect. Those types are annoying no matter what you fly. True the flight boxes are very small and minor infractions are to be expected but some just think they own all the airspace.

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01-15-2010 03:02 PM  8 years agoPost 5
Wayne Parrish

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This same sort of feeling was at the Joe Nall fly-in for years,till Pat seperated the two flight lines. You used to see a lot of beautiful scale a/c sitting on the flight line,BUT,they never flew because of the fixed wing 3D flyers.Now,since seperating the two styles of flight,the guys are bringing their scale ships out . If you've never built a scale ship you don't have any idea of the thought,time,AND money that goes into them.I fly pod and boom also and it really doesn't hurt so bad when I damage one of those.I ,and I think most all of the scale flyers do respect the 3D guys and want them to have their time up also,but it is always a few that want to be the TOP DAWG. Believe me ,someone will always be there to fill that position. Lets not start a range war over this,just try to respect each other and their airspace.Have a great day!

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01-15-2010 06:05 PM  8 years agoPost 6
wingtip

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If you've never built a scale ship you don't have any idea of the thought,time,AND money that goes into them
You hit the nail on the head... Most 3d'rs think they have an idea but when you start telling them how long you researched the model before even opening the box, tell them how long you spent on doing rivets, or how you hand made this part, and how you hand made that part then their eyes start to bulge and their brains cant comprehend why someone would do it... let alone show any sympathy if they plow their pod and boom into a scale machine...

this is why yes, some scale guys have attitudes... and i (along with others) showed some attitude everytime one of those punks on the golf carts came by at 30mph stirring up dust all over our scale models at ircha last year lol... theyre like, so what its just dust, clean it off... lol.. just clueless...

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01-15-2010 06:25 PM  8 years agoPost 7
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Beer and Wine ....

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01-15-2010 08:47 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Wayne Parrish

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Like i said,we don't need to start a range war,just simply respect each other.Thats what this world sure lacks nowadays.I know it will probably never happen,but another date for nothing but scale would probably bring a lot of the scale heli's out.

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01-15-2010 09:32 PM  8 years agoPost 9
Copter Doctor

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but another date for nothing but scale would probably bring a lot of the scale heli's out.
thats whay we have the southern scale challenge in dalton georgia every september

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01-15-2010 09:41 PM  8 years agoPost 10
Peter Wales

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The idea of having it during IRCHA is to allow people to see the scale helis which normally only come out for the Nats. Not everyone can afford to take the time off for both events and the top guys attend the Nats. So, this year, everyone will be able to see the best scale helicopters in the country if not in the world.

This event is timed not only for the entranst but the spectators as well as they are far more interested in seeing scale helis than another 3d pilot strutting his stuff. After you have seen the first few 3D guys, you have seen them all and trust me, there will be a great variation in scale models this year.

But, we appreciate there are a lot more 3d pilots than scale so we will do our thing to cause the minimum inconvenience to them, as you say, out of respect, but it is the nationals and the guys who have spent months and thousands of dollars building these models deserve respect as well.

Peter Wales
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01-15-2010 09:57 PM  8 years agoPost 11
marc28

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we appreciate there are a lot more 3d pilots than scale so we will do our thing to cause the minimum inconvenience to them, as you say, out of respect, but it is the nationals and the guys who have spent months and thousands of dollars building these models deserve respect as well.
well said

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01-15-2010 10:47 PM  8 years agoPost 12
Wayne Parrish

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Agreed wholeheartedly !

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01-16-2010 02:42 AM  8 years agoPost 13
doorman

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Well Put Peter!!!!
Agree 100%

Thanks, Stan

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01-16-2010 04:52 AM  8 years agoPost 14
windy62

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but it is the nationals and the guys who have spent months and thousands of dollars building these models deserve respect as well.
While I certainly agree that Scale does need a sense of respect, is calling the other Pilots "nutters" and "Alan Szabo Wannabees" any way to acheive it?

Seems like your just adding fuel to the fire....

IIRC a few years ago, the scale stuff was done at another location, to satisfy the scare of a 3D guy flying into your handmade beauty. I guess that wasn't good enough, you HAD to get out on the flightline with the rest of the Pilots. Well now you're there.

Except now your going to cry about the 3D guy again? Come on...

I LOVE a beautiful Scale ship as much as the next guy, I WISH I had the time, but with a baby girl and full time job to keep food on the table, I'm lucky to keep my GSR flyable these days...But if you "scale guys" force yourselves into the center stage, I really don't think you can complain about what goes on while your there.

windy62

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01-16-2010 05:03 AM  8 years agoPost 15
sean911sc

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Ok - I can do this

William S Harris

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01-16-2010 05:56 AM  8 years agoPost 16
2tall

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Sounds like Conan is 3D and Jay is Scale?

"Pay attention...lest the ground rise up and smite thee."

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01-16-2010 01:36 PM  8 years agoPost 17
Peter Wales

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Dont feed the troll Peter, dont feed the troll, even if it is raining outside

Peter Wales
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01-17-2010 12:57 AM  8 years agoPost 18
Adam Tashjian

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you have to fly within your square, its the rule of IRCHA and the AMA case closed. I pay the same amount to fly at Ircha as the next guy so I will love to fly at center stage.

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01-17-2010 09:56 PM  8 years agoPost 19
garyl

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All individuals who fly 3D wish they could fly like Alan Szabo. So what Peter said was only the truth about the wanabees. Anyone who flies scale wanabee like Len Mount or Peter Whales

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01-19-2010 07:28 PM  8 years agoPost 20
hrc37

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Something different to try
IRCHA wasn't intended just for 3D nor for just Scale....but for ALL machines. So I don't think trying something different this year is a bad idea and lets see how it works. You can never improve something if you never try anything different. And that's something that IRCHA has always been willing to do and that's why it's still the best meet in the world for R/C Helicopters.
Mark

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