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01-14-2010 03:21 PM  8 years agoPost 1
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Behind Closed Doors, Unions Win, You Lose

Posted January 14th, 2010 at 9:33am

From the Heritage Foundation:
http://blog.heritage.org/2010/01/14...=Morning%2BBell

Yesterday, President Barack Obama, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and nine other lawmakers met face-to-face for seven hours to resolve differences between the House and Senate health care bills. At the same time these talks were going on, AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, Service Employees International Union President Andy Stern and United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger met with other Obama administration officials in a separate room in the White House. This all comes after these same labor leaders met personally with Speaker Pelosi yesterday, and after they met face-to-face with President Obama in the White House on Monday. Despite then-candidate Barack Obama’s explicit promises to the American people, absolutely none of these meetings were open to the public or televised on C-SPAN. In fact, Politico reports: “Those involved in the talks sought to keep details of their progress under wraps.”

And just what deals were Big Labor, the leftist majorities in Congress and the Obama administration making behind closed doors? How to pay for President Obama’s likely $1 trillion health care plan without raising taxes on one of the President’s most loyal constituencies: labor unions. Specifically, Big Labor reportedly has struck a deal with health care negotiators to exempt union members from the 40% excise tax on high-priced health insurance premiums. By some estimates, the tax would hit one in four union members. Now Big Labor will get all of the big government health care spending they always wanted, but they will not have to pay for it.

And Obamacare’s Big Labor handouts don’t end there. The legislation also sets aside $5 billion to subsidize the costs of employer health benefits for early retirees. As Heritage fellow James Sherk notes, few nonunion employers, of course, pay pension and health benefits for workers to retire at 55. And then there’s the small business exemption from the employer mandate for businesses with less than 50 employees. At first this applied to all small businesses, but after aggressive lobbying by Big Labor, non-unionized construction businesses were unexempted. Big Labor lobbyists explicitly admitted they wanted to use Obamacare’s job-killing employer mandates as a competitive advantage to drive non-unionized firms out of business.

So where does the White House and Congress propose to regain the revenue lost from exempting unions from the health care excise tax? The people who fund job creation: investors. The Obama administration wants to apply the Medicare payroll tax not just to wages but to capital gains, and for the first time ever, to dividends and other forms of investment income. This tax will hit seniors the hardest since many of them live off their dividend and interest income, in addition to their pension and Social Security checks. But it also hurts us all since high taxes on capital gains, dividends, interest and business income increase the cost of capital, thus depressing investment at the very time the economy needs new investment to grow and create jobs.

Big Labor’s high wages and inflexible work rules have already bankrupted our nation’s once proud automobile industry. Across the country, their early retirement and exorbitant pensions are bankrupting states. The health insurance excise tax was once the signature health care spending cost cutter of Obama’s entire health care plan. Now it has been gutted at the altar of Big Labor power. The big loser in all of these cases is you, the American taxpayer.

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01-15-2010 02:58 PM  8 years agoPost 2
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Cut your own throat Obama. He is going to go down as the most hated president in history.

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01-15-2010 04:37 PM  8 years agoPost 3
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I think he's already there and has 3 more years to go. He's going to make Jimma Cata look like a friggin' rocket scientist.....

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01-15-2010 05:07 PM  8 years agoPost 4
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Consumate Politician- You know when he is lying because his mouth is moving...

Why is there no mechanism in place to hold politicians accountable for promises made during a campaign? So far this arrogant Son of a Bitch has contrared every statement he made during his campaign.
Now if it was something simple like having to raise a tax to help with a budget issue I think we can all understand not being able to hold to it.
But to flat out lie and reneg on every single thing he has touched and to put our country and rights in peril is flat out treasonous.
This Administration is destroying our country right before our eyes and no matter what the citizens wish and voice, the bastards do what they want.
They are operating without any form of check and balance and the one that matters most, We The People are ignored.

They are building a monster.
And it is going to bite them in the ass.

Liberals are like a "Slinky", useless but entertaining when pushed down stairs....

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01-15-2010 05:11 PM  8 years agoPost 5
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Why is there no mechanism in place to hold politicians accountable for promises made during a campaign?
There already is. Its called the "Vote". All we got to do is WISE UP !!!!!!

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01-15-2010 05:38 PM  8 years agoPost 6
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There already is. Its called the "Vote". All we got to do is WISE UP !!!!!!
I agree
But how can we trust the vote when you have entities such as ACORN, SEIU and the Panthers involved?

Liberals are like a "Slinky", useless but entertaining when pushed down stairs....

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01-15-2010 06:04 PM  8 years agoPost 7
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I still say: a one hour show (probably Fox would be the only one that would even try this) that breaks down bills and laws passed everyday into lay terms and the votes that were cast by each representative. Let the people see how these idiots are voting and exactly what they're spending our money on. It would have to be a daily show in order to be effective, but I think people would see in short order, who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. From both parties I might add.
These guys get away with this shizz because they operate in the dark, under a cloak of silence and secrecy.

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01-16-2010 12:16 AM  8 years agoPost 8
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In 2011 51% of Americans will not pay federal taxes. Thats how democrats stay in power.

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01-16-2010 01:45 AM  8 years agoPost 9
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unions seem so 20th century at this point.

it would almost seem funny for any union to go on strike at this point in these times.

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01-16-2010 01:53 AM  8 years agoPost 10
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Can't Believe it -Whom Else was in on it ?
Like too know whom else was attending the meeting ??? Would not of been their by himself. Which party members arranged it ?? Why did they even get a audience from the leader of our country ? X Can't believe they didn't walk them out the door.

I think we need tariff's on our toilet paper, at least then those that are the most full of it will pay there fair amount.

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01-16-2010 02:23 AM  8 years agoPost 11
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I think we need tariff's on our toilet paper, at least then those that are the most full of it will pay there fair amount.
I know there's a good comeback for that, but my mind can't pull it in.

90% of life is "showing up"

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01-16-2010 02:37 AM  8 years agoPost 12
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Better put that tax on the constitution as our congress is flushing it faster that Charmin at a flu clinic!

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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01-16-2010 02:41 AM  8 years agoPost 13
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baby uh1
Thank you.

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01-16-2010 03:09 AM  8 years agoPost 14
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here is a good read on Obama

Dr. Krauthammer is on Fox News. He is an M.D. and a lawyer and is paralyzed from the neck down. A friend went to hear Charles Krauthammer. He listened with 25 others in a closed room. What he says here, is NOT 2nd-hand but 1st. The ramifications are staggering for us, our children and their children.

Last Monday was a profound evening; Dr. Charles Krauthammer spoke to the Center for the American Experiment. He is a brilliant intellectual, seasoned & articulate. He is forthright and careful in his analysis, and never resorts to emotions or personal insults. He is NOT a fear monger nor an extremist in his comments and views. He is a fiscal conservative, and has received a Pulitzer Prize for writing. He is a frequent contributor to Fox News and writes weekly for the Washington Post.

The entire room was held spellbound during his talk. I have summarized his comments, as we are living in uncharted waters economically and internationally.

Even 2 Dems at my table agreed with everything he said! If you feel like forwarding this to those who are open minded and have not drunk the Kool-Aid, feel free.

Summary of his comments:

1. Mr. Obama is a very intellectual, charming individual. He is not to be underestimated. He is a cool customer who doesn't show his emotions. It's very hard to know what's behind the mask. The taking down of the Clinton dynasty was an amazing accomplishment. The Clintons still do not understand what hit them. Obama was in the perfect place at the perfect time.

2. Obama has political skills comparable to Reagan and Clinton. He has a way of making you think he's on your side, agreeing with your position, while doing the opposite. Pay no attention to what he SAYS; rather, watch what he DOES!

3. Obama has a ruthless quest for power. He did not come to Washington to make something out of himself, but rather to change everything, including dismantling capitalism. He can't be straightforward on his ambitions, as the public would not go along. He has a heavy hand, and wants to level the playing field with income redistribution and punishment to the achievers of society. He would like to model the USA to Great Britain or Canada .

4. His three main goals are to control ENERGY, PUBLIC EDUCATION, and NATIONAL HEALTHCARE by the Federal government. He doesn't care about the auto or financial services industries, but got them as an early bonus. The cap and trade will add costs to everything and stifle growth. Paying for FREE college education is his goal.. Most scary is his healthcare program, because if you make it FREE and add 46,000,000 people to a Medicare-type single-payer system, the costs will go through the roof. The only way to control costs is with massive RATIONING of services, like in Canada . God forbid!

5. He has surrounded himself with mostly far-left academic types. No one around him has ever even run a candy store. But they are going to try and run the auto, financial, banking and other industries. This obviously can't work in the long run. Obama is not a socialist; rather he's a far-left secular progressive bent on nothing short of revolution. He ran as a moderate, but will govern from the hard left. Again, watch what he does, not what he says.

6. Obama doesn't really see himself as President of the United States , but more as a ruler over the world. He sees himself above it all, trying to orchestrate & coordinate various countries and their agendas. He sees moral equivalency in all cultures. His apology tour in Germany and England was a prime example of how he sees America , as an imperialist nation that has been arrogant, rather than a great noble nation that has at times made errors. This is the first President ever who has chastised our allies and appeased our enemies!

7. He is now handing out goodies. He hopes that the bill (and pain) will not come due until after he is reelected in 2012. He would like to blame all problems on Bush from the past, and hopefully his successor in the future. He has a huge ego, and Dr. Krauthammer believes he is a narcissist.

8. Republicans are in the wilderness for a while, but will emerge strong. Republicans are pining for another Reagan, but there will never be another like him. Krauthammer believes Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty & Bobby Jindahl (except for his terrible speech in February) are the future of the party. Newt Gingrich is brilliant, but has baggage. Sarah Palin is sincere and intelligent, but needs to really be seriously boning up on facts and info if she is to be a serious candidate in the future.. We need to return to the party of lower taxes, smaller government, personal responsibility, strong national defense, and state's rights..

9. The current level of spending is irresponsible and outrageous. We are spending trillions that we don't have. This could lead to hyperinflation, depression or worse. No country has ever spent themselves into prosperity. The media is giving Obama, Reid and Pelosi a pass because they love their agenda. But eventually the bill will come due and people will realize the huge bailouts didn't work, nor will the stimulus package. These were trillion-dollar payoffs to Obama's allies, unions and the Congress to placate the left, so he can get support for #4 above.

10. The election was over in mid-September when Lehman brothers failed, fear and panic swept in, we had an unpopular President, and the war was grinding on indefinitely without a clear outcome. The people are in pain, and the mantra of change caused people to act emotionally. Any Dem would have won this election; it was surprising it was as close as it was..

11. In 2012, if the unemployment rate is over 10%, Republicans will be swept back into power. If it's under 8%, the Dems continue to roll. If it's between 8-10%, it will be a dogfight. It will all be about the economy. I hope this gets you really thinking about what's
happening in Washington and Congress. There is a left-wing revolution going on, according to Krauthammer, and he encourages us to keep the faith and join the loyal resistance.. The work will be hard, but we're right on most issues and can reclaim our country, before it's far too late.

Do yourself a long term favor, send this to all who will listen to an intelligent assessment of the big picture. All our futures and children's futures depend on our good understanding of what is really going on in DC, and our action pursuant to that understanding!! It really IS up to each of us to take individual action!! Start with educating your friends and neighbors!!! But if you do not care to participate in educating the populace...just delete this message, it's ok with me

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01-16-2010 03:17 AM  8 years agoPost 15
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Dr. Krauthammer
This guy is great. I like to hear him speak. Way above me, but I enjoy his work (I can't sing either but I like good music).

90% of life is "showing up"

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01-16-2010 08:56 PM  8 years agoPost 16
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Well if it does go below 10% it will be because they LIE fudged the numbers.

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