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01-12-2010 05:33 PM  8 years agoPost 1
dvdking

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The police dept I work for is going into aerial photography with rc helicopters. Can any one steer me in the directions of a vendor who can supply the police dept with camera outfit and helicopter and the works.

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01-12-2010 06:21 PM  8 years agoPost 2
wiesenflieger

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photo shipone just released a nice modular package for this kind of work. you find more information about it on
www.photo shipone.com/UAS/ (remove the space between photo and shipone)

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01-12-2010 06:35 PM  8 years agoPost 3
theslayer

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I too think Photo_ship_one's HALO is just the heli you are looking for, built to resist, and optimized from the inner core.
Other choices would be the Minicopter Maxi Joker 3
Daniel

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01-12-2010 06:46 PM  8 years agoPost 4
GyroFreak

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A police department somewhere in California was shut down on using RC survalence. Some sort of court order on invasion of privacy. Personally I think it's a great idea if safety is followed. (Don't hover over a large crowd and that sort of safety concerns)
Any way I hope it works for your PD.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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01-12-2010 08:48 PM  8 years agoPost 5
Louisiana Helicam

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The whole department was shut down?

www.louisianahelicam.com

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01-12-2010 09:36 PM  8 years agoPost 6
sean911sc

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Edit: PH0T0SHIP0NE.C0M

William S Harris

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01-12-2010 09:44 PM  8 years agoPost 7
ehx

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I assume you want to do something like this:

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=6755778

There's a difference between putting up a heli over a blocked-off accident scene and flying a plane over a dense urban neighborhood. One environment is controlled, the other isn't. Much different risk levels.

(I'm assuming GyroFreak might be referencing the LA County Sheriff situation. If you've got something else, specific links please. Even if you do privacy concerns wouldn't be relevant to most uses.)

Talk to the Utah Highway patrol and see how they are getting along. There are others out there doing similar work.

Most are using relatively big gassers or electric helis with 700 or 800mm blades. If you are primarily going to be doing accident scenes and using software like:

http://www.photomodeler.com/index.htm
http://www.iwitnessphoto.com/

You could get by with a much smaller heli (600 or even 500mm blade size) and a small camera like the newer compact APS-C or micro Four Thirds offerings. Portability, maintenance, and ease of setup would be much improved.

If you are tied into older camera equipment or perhaps a specific, larger metric camera (or other heavier payloads) then the bigger helis are the way to go.

You will need a vendor to supply at least the heli, autopilot, and some training (times 2 or more) so you are into the multiple 10's of thousands of dollars. The "best" vendor will depend on exactly what you need.

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01-12-2010 09:47 PM  8 years agoPost 8
ERIC AUSTIN

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I could see how this could be used by PD's in certain instances such as SWAT situations where it would make sense to get a birds eye view of the scene before sending humans in.

Also, it would seem that ariel shots of a car crash resulting in a death would also be helpful.

However surveillance would be tough due to flight time and a low altitude helicopter with a camera will attract a lot of attention.

That being said photo shipone HALO would be the right move.

Eric

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01-12-2010 10:32 PM  8 years agoPost 9
rerazor

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Maybe just maybe a company that supplies that and are the distributors of DJI and Minicopter. Couple weeks the website will be up. Welcome to Aerial Response.

Robert

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01-12-2010 11:18 PM  8 years agoPost 10
sean911sc

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There are multiple vendors that can provide a solution. Keep in mind that we don't know the full scope of work required for the project.

One vendor that is currently providing RTF solutions to PD is DraganFly Innovations. These UAS are small enough to transport easily in the trunk of a car. A 700+ series camera ship and support equipment isn't going to fit. They also require more knowledge to setup/operate/maintain. The DragonFly series (X4, E4 X6, and X8) will require less maintenance due to the lower parts count.

LEARN MORE

We’ll at least provide you with a variety of UAS platforms to help narrow down your search based on info provide.

William S Harris

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01-13-2010 12:39 AM  8 years agoPost 11
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01-13-2010 12:53 AM  8 years agoPost 12
tabbytabb

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Don't forget about the CARVEC Kestrel unit.

This is the most fully featured unit on the market for this kind of work

http://www.carvecsystem.co.uk/

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01-13-2010 01:43 AM  8 years agoPost 13
ChopperChild

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You might also want to check out Bergen helicopters

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01-13-2010 04:46 AM  8 years agoPost 14
ERIC AUSTIN

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EHX,

Thanks for posting that news story, I found it quite interesting that a patrol officer can operate the helicopter and camera in 3-5 hrs of training. They better buy a lot of em!

I can see a huge benefit though like I said to having a birds eye of a major crash.

Eric

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01-13-2010 07:56 AM  8 years agoPost 15
ehx

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Actually, most people can use a system with an "auto-hover" autopilot with very little training.

An afternoon would be enough for most even without RC experience to take off, collect a few images, and land. Now could they handle maintenance or some serious problem in flight? Not very likely.

But, with a few hours of training a person could actually start doing some flights under the supervision of a more experienced pilot. After some time (weeks, months) practicing including some failure modes and possible emergency situations pertinent to the specific hardware a person could be ready to do everything on his own. Maybe not build and fine tune a heli (and autopilot) from kit form, but safely fly it and do basic day-to-day maintenance.

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01-13-2010 03:35 PM  8 years agoPost 16
MPA

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The police dept I work for is going into aerial photography with rc helicopters. Can any one steer me in the directions of a vendor who can supply the police dept with camera outfit and helicopter and the works.
To be used for what if you dont mind me asking.

rvv.com.au

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01-13-2010 04:42 PM  8 years agoPost 17
ERIC AUSTIN

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I am still skeptical about a half day of training to take off and land.

An auto pilot of that class is $7k, helicopter about $3k, put and nice camera and gimbal with down link video and such and you are pushing 15 to $20k.

I know I would not hand it to some guy with no experience and just say
" it is pretty easy, use this stick to spool up and take off, flip this switch and hover, take some pics, lower this and land" Not going to happen.

Anyway, with tax payer type money anything is possible.

Eric

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01-14-2010 12:13 AM  8 years agoPost 18
rerazor

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A in depth training program is a must. I will not a sell a DJI if the person is not fully aware that knowing how to fly is required. Its simple, when you HAVE to fly in manual mode you have to know how to fly.

Half day of training is not worth responding to if you don't have pilot skills. Waste of time.

Robert

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01-14-2010 12:47 AM  8 years agoPost 19
sean911sc

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Piloting skill level is directly proportional to aircraft type/size/function.

William S Harris

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01-14-2010 12:26 PM  8 years agoPost 20
lib435

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+ 1 for a carvec system. Been using one for nearly two years, totally reliable with excellent customer support but again it all depends on your requirements as to which system you choose. Good luck with your project.
Graham.

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