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01-12-2010 04:46 PM  8 years agoPost 1
Stet

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Here is what I want:

To use my Jive 60HV controller (5S Minimum)
To get a first quality fan and Neu motor
To get a model that is preferably glass wing, but willing to do some building and sanding
A model that would allow me to put in some cool retracts and cockpit
A model that has a rudder, not one I have to hack out of a rudderless kit to convert.

Don't want it to be too big, preferably less than 40 inch wingspan

I was going to go with the Jet Hangar F4D Skyray, but when I saw the flight video I was unimpressed (seemed froggy in flight)

Hoping for a price range around $500 not including the motor and fan and retracts.

Can anyone recommend a kit?

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01-12-2010 04:59 PM  8 years agoPost 2
Dblex

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75AMP speed controller and 5s have pretty much limited you to the 70mm class EDF. IMO

Most 70mm class composites do not use rudder and require a rudder mod.

I have become a big fan of SAPAC models, but have flown HET, JEPE and a few other kits.

Sapac has s new T-45 V2 that had a simple rudder mod, and fly's really well on a 5S pack. Blistering speeds and has flaps and retracts. Alot of cockpit mods are available for this also.

L-39 is good looking plane from them too. Affordable and simple rudder mods.

MB1 motor is awesome and is around $39

You could get plane, servos, motor, fan, retracts and possibly the scale struts for your price range without speed controller....

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01-12-2010 05:23 PM  8 years agoPost 3
airboss

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with all that equipment you want its going to add weight, go with a Hoffman Magnetics EDF unit or go home ! I have seen dozens of edf jets and most SUCK! build it light and it will fly good if your lucky.

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01-12-2010 06:13 PM  8 years agoPost 4
heli pod

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Start fresh....Parkzone HABU...check out the vids. I have one and it ROCKS!

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01-12-2010 06:17 PM  8 years agoPost 5
Stet

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The Habu is cool, but I am looking for a more detailed and high-tech finished appearance. I've got other generics I like to fly.

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01-12-2010 06:31 PM  8 years agoPost 6
Stet

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Is this a good airframe to start with?

http://www.ductedfans.com/jets_electric_l39.html

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01-19-2010 08:52 PM  8 years agoPost 7
Stet

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I bought this one. Really nice model. Ridiculous price. I was going to get it without the fan and motor, but it works great with the stock setup which only cost $10 more than the airplane alone.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Product...?ProdID=EFL8025

Hoffman magnetics looked really nice, too bad they are out of business.

Maybe this will be my next one, my GF Paris Hiltone can afford to buy it for me

http://www.espritmodel.com/index.as...OD&ProdID=11499

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01-26-2010 02:55 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Stet

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Well, I did it

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01-26-2010 07:40 PM  8 years agoPost 9
RappyTappy

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Quite a difference from a eflite pos. lol Nice jet!

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01-26-2010 09:00 PM  8 years agoPost 10
Dblex

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Just curious how you went from Foamy to All out composite 100mm set up? and about 3grand plus? LOL

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01-26-2010 09:35 PM  8 years agoPost 11
Stet

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Actually, the Eflite BAC Hawk is a really nice model and will be a great trainer for me to warm up with before flying this one.

Dblex, funny, the guy at the Harley shop asked the same question when I rode in on a Vespa and bought a nice bike back in '85. The funny thing is I really miss the Vespa.

I've been doing the nice (and big) helicopters for a long time. I did not find much of interest in the intermediate EDF offerings. Plus, I put the word out that I was looking for a nice EDF and this one was presented to me for 1/2 what it cost the original owner who never flew it. So I grabbed it. And if you price everything out, not including the pro building job (that would have taken me many months and not turned out as nice) you will see that it is a really big number.

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01-27-2010 12:10 AM  8 years agoPost 12
Spitfire1

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Unless you can nail every single landing perfect the retracts last about 5 seconds, I dont know how much experience you have with planes, me and my flying buds are all newbs (but where not that bad, we can land foamie jets and cessnas kindof). With the 70mm jets we have given up with retracts and belly land, doing research it seem even most guys that know what there doing also have given up on runway landings.

We maidened an Eflite composite Bae hawk yesterday(which is a tiny little jet), even landing it almost the beggining of the runway, its so fast it rolls of the end of the runway into the pig grass, it only just gets airborne after useing the entire runway, Im not talking about a short runway either its a propper flying club, once up though it flies great(very fast), its just getting it back down.

As far as the 6s Lander 70mm RC lander jets we fly, I cant see how anyone could get them down on a runway without ripping of the landing gear, its impossible to slow them down without going into a stall and loseing complete control.

I would love a nice jet with retracts, but you must need to be one hell of a good pilot to land without ripping of the gear, maybe useing flaps/flaperons to slow them down is the only way.

Im thinking of buying an Eflite bae hawk, but after seeing how fast it comes in, Im not sure.

EDIT. $160 at Horizon hobby is a ridiculously good price with a ducted fan/motor icluded, Im so tempted to grab one but I need the money to buy a new fan for my RC Lander f16.

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01-27-2010 06:14 AM  8 years agoPost 13
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We were flying the E-flite BAE hawk last weekend. It is a very cool plane once you get done with the heat gun straightening the fuselage before assembly of the tail. It actually did the last leg (1/4 turn) with the engine off coming onto the runway. The landing was not bad, and was turning back in about 75 feed I figure. We run it on 4S (ok per the instuctions) and the only bummer is with the 2500 pack right now with bad throttle management we are getting less than 4 minutes. 3S would be pretty lame in that plane.

The retracts on this are very robust, and the rears have some heavy duty springs as well as air brakes. This thing will definitely be landing on wheels, anything else would really mess it up. My first flights will be at the desert where the runway is perfectly flat and for as far as you can see. The youtube videos show grass takeoffs, landings and touch-n-go's. My biggest worry is going to slow and tip-stalling it, but I have some very experienced fan guys (from the rossi DF days) who will be flying it first then giving me the briefing.

My landings are pretty good. After years of helicopters, I found the planes pretty easy as long as I don't lose orientation.

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01-27-2010 09:00 AM  8 years agoPost 14
Taipan

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My mate has an old F16 and A4 Skyhawk, each powered by an OS91 DF engine. Not sure how big the DF units are.

What would he need to convert them to electric?? Are there motors that are a drop in fit for the existing DF units? Speedies? Lipos?

Is there a website with info of EDF jets of this size?

Thanks!

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01-27-2010 09:18 AM  8 years agoPost 15
Chris Lupa

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+1 on the E-Flite Hawk. I saw these at a fly-in last year and they were awesome. Pretty quick, too. No doubt your one is a little quicker!

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01-27-2010 09:50 AM  8 years agoPost 16
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The Eflite Hawk we maidened last night was only on 3s and it was not slow, Im a bit worried about getting one myself due to how fast it comes in, Il wait to see if my buddy can slow it down a bit over the next few runs and if so maybe get one, I just bought a 1.4 m foam cessna from HK to try and get my landings worked out a bit before going fast EDF with wheels, the way Im bounceing em in at the moment trying to land a jet with wheels would be impossible, I cant seem to keep the nose wheel from ripping of even with the cessna, I wish I had bought something like an Eflite Pulse balsa aerobatic plane to learn on now, they are far easier to land and fly than so called "learner planes".

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