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01-12-2010 02:55 PM  8 years agoPost 1
gibuk

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Hi, ive decided to buy a 2nd hand vision 50 ultimate (v1 i belive, how do i tell?) and ive noticed since building it back together (dismantled for posting) that i cannot turn the tail rotor one way on its own, as apposed to my raptor.

If you understand what i mean? Basically on my raptor i can turn the tail rotor one way and it moves nothing, and the other way moves the mian blades, where as on my vision 50 both ways move the main blades, is this correct?

ive done some searching and read about the tail fork known to break is there anything else that i should know about or be wary about?

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Andy

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01-12-2010 03:13 PM  8 years agoPost 2
tucfaz

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The one-way is stuck.. Remove it and give it a god clean, then re-apply one-way grease, but will strongly recommend getting new ones, which you need to grease before mounting..

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01-12-2010 03:22 PM  8 years agoPost 3
gibuk

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Hi tucfaz, thanks for the reply... feared that maybe the case. Woiuld that be this part i need then?

http://www.fast-lad.co.uk/store/eq0...ion-p-5403.html

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Andy

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01-12-2010 03:25 PM  8 years agoPost 4
jschenck

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Yep, as I stated in your other thread, I've had problems with the one-way locking up. ElyQ knows of the problem, they may warranty the one-way for you. Can also try replacing it with a Raptor unit, they are interchangeable.

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01-12-2010 06:03 PM  8 years agoPost 5
gibuk

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Hi, ive got slightly confused.

Ive been told that the one way bearing is the same the the raptor one. And as i have a raptor i can compare... and it seems between mine there not.

I have a raptor 30 V2 and its an elyQ vision 50 ultimate v1.

What i noticed with the vision 50 is that i cannot turn the bladed anit clock or clockwise without the tail blades rotating, but one way DOES turn the engine over and the other way doesnt. So after being told its jammed i have removed it but cannot understand why it is jammed? As off if freely moves one way but not the other??

So i compared to my raptor one, but its different all together, as the raptor mainshaft goes complete threw the one way bearing and has a collor/stopper on the buttom and the main shaft can completly turn inside the one way bearing without moving it. Where'as the vision 50 one, the main shaft has a bin/bolt and nut go thew the bottom of the one way bearing and mainshaft thus always turning the one way bearing??

So.. im confused whats right / wrong / jammed??

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Andy

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01-12-2010 06:12 PM  8 years agoPost 6
nivlek

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The Raptor 30 doesn't have a driven tail , if that's what is confusing you .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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01-12-2010 06:17 PM  8 years agoPost 7
gibuk

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Ok... so does the mean my vision 50's one way bearing is or isnt jammed.

As if i hold it in my hand i can turn it one way but not the other?

And when on the helicopter i spin the main blades either way they also spin the tail blades, i cannot spin them independantly like i can on my raptor 30?

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Andy

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01-12-2010 06:31 PM  8 years agoPost 8
nivlek

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It sounds right to me . The Raptor 30 tail is not driven during auto rotations .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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01-12-2010 06:33 PM  8 years agoPost 9
gibuk

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ahh rite. Wonder why tucfaz thought otherwise?

Ok, well ill rebuild it all back up then!

Cheers
Andy

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01-12-2010 06:43 PM  8 years agoPost 10
jschenck

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With the Raptor's if you have the red gear driving the belt it's a non-driven tail. If you have the white gear it is a driven tail. Take a look at it, the red gear is bolted to the outside of the one-way where the white gear is bolted to the mainshaft (linked to the inside of the one-way).

If you can move the main gear counter-clockwise without moving the main blades then your one-way is not locked. You should be OK.

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01-12-2010 11:36 PM  8 years agoPost 11
tucfaz

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If you understand what i mean? Basically on my raptor i can turn the tail rotor one way and it moves nothing, and the other way moves the mian blades, where as on my vision 50 both ways move the main blades, is this correct?
The one way turns one way.. Hence, when you mention that your Vision 50 turns both ways. Then it would have suggested it's stuck. The entire gear system is 100% identical to a Raptor.. This is presuming you're turning the white main gear, and not the bottom auto-rotation gear. The auto rotation gear will spin the blade either way as it's bolted to the main shaft. While when you spin the white main gear, it will only spin the blade one way while being free the other.. So depending which gear you spin.. Sorry for the confusion..

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01-13-2010 12:42 AM  8 years agoPost 12
tucfaz

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Where'as the vision 50 one, the main shaft has a bin/bolt and nut go thew the bottom of the one way bearing and mainshaft thus always turning the one way bearing??
The bolt is only securing the auto-rotation gear, one-way clutch sleeve, and the main shaft while the Main gear hub (The main one-way clutch) is not secured at all. Hence, is allow to rotate freely but using the one way bearing to restrict it's direction.

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