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01-12-2010 02:06 AM  8 years agoPost 1
Flyinrazrback

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I am swapping out the stock ESC in my trex 600esp with one of these and curious if the BEC in the Ice 100 will handle my electronics or not. It has 3 DS610s on the cyclic, and a futaba GY520/BLS251. Or, should I just keep the align rx pack and not use the BEC in the Ice 100?

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01-12-2010 02:10 AM  8 years agoPost 2
Heli 770

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The BEC in the Ice. is 5amps., Align is only 3amps.

Edit: The Align has 6amps, I was thinking of the BX Bec.

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01-12-2010 02:28 AM  8 years agoPost 3
Funky Trex

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When I use the built in BEC, my ICE 100 runs a lot hotter in my Logo. When using my Align BEC the ESC temp drops ~40 degrees.

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01-12-2010 02:32 AM  8 years agoPost 4
Flyinrazrback

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Ok thanks, sounds like I just just keep the rx pack, redundancy cant hurt I guess.

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02-05-2010 11:44 AM  8 years agoPost 5
garyinbg

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What voltage are you taking from the BEC on the ICE ?
and also
Do you have any ventilation to the ICE, it likes some air going past it.

I am using jsut the BEC from my ICE 100 on my 500 and it has worked flawlessly.

Are you using the Autorotation recovery setup in the ICE, just wanted to know what you thought of it ??????

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02-05-2010 02:13 PM  8 years agoPost 6
Jag72

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BEC--
Do a search here and I think you'd find that 9 out of 10 people would recommend NOT using the BEC inthe ICE esc's

I know I WOULDN'T

I have an Ice 100 and I wouldn't even consider using it...just get an external BEC like a hercules or even the 20amp Castle one..

The few extra bucks you spend on the front end will be worth it...

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02-05-2010 03:46 PM  8 years agoPost 7
garyinbg

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Hey, there are many schools of thought,

Products change and can get better.

This range is fairly new to the market and while
I doubt if 9 out of 10 pilots have tried this version I respect your view but again, mine now has 70+ flights and has been great.

Cheers

Gary

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02-05-2010 07:04 PM  8 years agoPost 8
rexxigpilot

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Florida

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Use the internal BEC on the ICE 100. It is a digital switching BEC/Amp instead of a linear type as on the older Phoenix series ESC's.

The old linear BEC was overrated and got very hot even under light load. I burned out 2 Phoenix 45's using micro digital servos.

The BEC in the ICE has a continuous rating of 5A which is much more than your setup will ever draw unless all servos bind at the same time. The big improvement of the ICE series is the inclusion of a switching BEC (and the data logger of course). Use what you paid for already.

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02-05-2010 09:04 PM  8 years agoPost 9
garyinbg

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you can also use the Autorotation recovery feature which makes bail outs from Autorotations fun and not an issue...

Cheers

Gary

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02-05-2010 09:34 PM  8 years agoPost 10
t2o

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I was using the internal BEC on the an ICE100 (swift16) and it smoked. Castle replaced the unit and the tech told me on the phone "I would not use the BEC on a Heli."

I was using an EagleTree servo current sensor the whole time and it never logged anything above 2.8 amps. Just passing it on. The product information sheet on the ICE100 that I have clearly stated that the BEC is a 5 amp peak which means it's continuous rating is lower than 5 amps.

Perhaps there has been a change in spec or maybe this doc linked to below is not correct.

http://helifreak.com/picture.php?al...pictureid=30300

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02-05-2010 09:41 PM  8 years agoPost 11
Heli 770

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It wouldn't surprise me if the internal BEC is over rated.

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02-13-2010 03:47 AM  8 years agoPost 12
Clintstone

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GA

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I typically don't recommend using the internal BEC on anything larger than a 425 MM blade heli. When I go to the 550 or 600 I use the Pro Bec or a RX battery and reg. Larger helis are capable of large loads when you stall the servos.

When using an external BEC or RX pack make sure you Isolate the internal BEC in the ESC by removing the center REd wire from the lead going to the ESC or by using a servo Extension and removing the center wire from the extension so you don't have to alter the ESC and if you are Data logging this will make it easier so you don't have to unplug from the RX every time.

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02-13-2010 03:37 PM  8 years agoPost 13
rexxigpilot

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Then what's the point of putting a BEC in any Castle Creations ESC rated for 50A or more? Digital switching BEC's SHOULD NOT have the problem with heat generation/buring out like a linear BEC.

It seems to me that CC screwed up on their design if the BEC in ESC's for larger helis is not usable. This is particularly troubling since their linear BEC's in the Phoenix series were so overated they couldn't even handle my Furion 450 with Futaba 3156's servos.

Does anyone else here have a problem with a device that doesn't work as intended?

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02-14-2010 05:13 PM  8 years agoPost 14
Clintstone

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REx, there are plenty of folks using the internal BEC on 600 size helis. This means it does work...I simple don't recomend it as I know that the servos used in Helis with blades larger than 425mm can pull more than 3 1/2 amps each when stalled. This is the reason I don't recomend using the internal 5 amp BEC for larger Helis. I run the 75 and 100 on my 500 Trexs and the internal BEC works great on 6s with 3 9650 and a 520 with the 9257. My ESP has 3 DS 510 servos and a JR 3500 on the tail with 520 Gyro. These work Great on my 500's.

The ESC's are also great on airplanes lets don't forget...My preference is to use the internal BEC on planes up to 58" but when I go larger than 58" I like to use an external BEC. This has kept me out of trouble so far and is maybe a bit cautious but it has worked for me.

The purpose of this post was to give my recommendations and that is all.

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