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01-11-2010 05:40 PM  8 years agoPost 1
tsperry88

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Hey guys. Been flying planes for several years. Dicided to try a heli, bought a MSR, and am hooked. I would like a 200 size heli but was wondering how much performance is sacrificed with the smaller size. Which one would be the "best".

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01-11-2010 05:53 PM  8 years agoPost 2
Riq

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200's arent really a good one to start with. They are a handful for even experienced pilots, piloting and working on them, esp if your going to crash a lot.

You can have a little, or a lot of performance from a 200 as well, but I think a 450 is a good starting point, and thats even a little small to start with.

If you have a good field with good support, get a 50.

Just my .02

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01-11-2010 06:07 PM  8 years agoPost 3
tsperry88

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I fly at a good club, but only a couple people fly helis. I was hoping for something I could fly anywhere. If I bought something I could only fly at our field, I might just go nitro. It would be the cheapest for me, since I already have all the support stuff. Is a 400 size heli park flyable?

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01-11-2010 08:30 PM  8 years agoPost 4
JRjoe

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If you have a good field with good support, get a 50.
I couldn't agree more. Get the biggest and best you can afford.


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Indoor plumbing??? No, we don't need that!!!

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01-11-2010 08:55 PM  8 years agoPost 5
rotormonkey

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Yes, a 400/450 is park flyable. Some guys would even fly a 500 at a park, but I wouldn't. Getting into decapitation territory there if you ask me. A 450 is the ideal place to start. The performance:stability:cost ratio is spot on imho.

Should you decide you like it, then get a 50 nitro. I like having the best of both worlds. Small electric and big nitro. Really those are the only two birds I need. Though I still have more

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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01-11-2010 09:30 PM  8 years agoPost 6
tsperry88

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OK, whats the best quality/cost 400/450 size heli.

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01-11-2010 09:34 PM  8 years agoPost 7
JRjoe

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T-Rex 450

Invest in the VERY best radio you can right from the start too.

DX7 is a good choice...


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01-11-2010 09:50 PM  8 years agoPost 8
tsperry88

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I have a DX7 heli version just because I expected to one day want to fly a heli. I fly basic 3d and like the smooth throttle anyhow though both can be converted. The Trex seems very popular. What makes them the best?

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01-11-2010 09:56 PM  8 years agoPost 9
rotormonkey

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Quality vs cost is something of opinion. The blade 400 is probably the best bang for your buck out there right now, but it leaves something to be desired in the quality department. The servos, and gyro are crap. Replace them and you'll have a very nice heli.

On the other hand replace those and you may has well have bought the airframe you want with the electronics you wanted in the first place.

The Trex 450 airframe itself isn't the best quality in the world either, but it is good quality. Parts are generally available anywhere you go, but it certainly isn't the best quality.

If you want quality at the expense of availability you might want to check out the Beam, Outrage G5 or Rave. They're all great quality from what I've heard (and seen for the beam), but you won't find parts at every lhs in the country.

Really it all comes down to cost, availability, support (what are the other guys you know flying?), quality, maintainability and the balance of those that's right for you.

Most people go with the Trex 450 just because the parts are pretty cheap, availability is good, and the cost to quality ratio is pretty good.

Personally, I have a Trex 450, but I wouldn't swear by it. Most of it isn't actually align anymore anyway

Edit: Oh, you can probably just use whatever radio you've been using for the planks, but if you don't already have a radio that'll do the CCPM mixing for helis, then I'll +1 on the DX7. Great bang for your buck. Though since you've already been flying planks, you probably have the info you need to make an informed decision all by yourself on the radio front

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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01-12-2010 12:39 AM  8 years agoPost 10
thtoyman

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Any heli can fly good. Its all in the gear and set up. You can get some good buy's On use heli's. But be careful who you buy from.

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01-12-2010 07:50 AM  8 years agoPost 11
skytrekin

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Yes be careful who you buy from if getting used.
Some are good and ship fast, others might take a while, or worse yet not get anything at all

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01-13-2010 02:43 AM  8 years agoPost 12
rokiehelli1983

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yes and NO
a 400 size is park flyable yes but NOT a good heli to start with when new to heli's. A 50 size is the best thing to start with by far

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01-13-2010 04:26 AM  8 years agoPost 13
rotormonkey

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I respectfully disagree with that statement. I learned on a 450, and had no trouble at all. With heavy paddles, a little expo, low rates, and flybar weights a 450 can be set up pretty docile.

And considering repair cost of a 400/450 is around the $30-$50 range, and the repair cost of a 30 - 50 size heli is around $50-$100 (assuming woodies on both) the 450 for learning is the logical choice.

No they can't be set up as stable as a 50, but they can be set up to be quite manageable for learning. And not having a giant flying lawnmower to contend with (re: Scary), leaves the newbie to focus on flying rather than fear.

Yeah lots of guys learned on 30's back in the day. That was before the advent of the 450. Technology has blessed us with smaller helis. There's no reason not to make use of them.

If it can't hover, it ain't worth flying.

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01-13-2010 04:57 AM  8 years agoPost 14
Solmanbandit

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After I got good at my MSR, I switched to the Blade CP Pro 2. It was a handful and scary at first. Some minor crashes later and few more upgrades happened. I now really enjoy it and I am getting pretty good at it. I would've loved to go bigger, but initial funds to go bigger is what slowed me down. I would love to eventually make it up to a 500 and will do so if funds permits it in the future.

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