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01-11-2010 02:20 PM  8 years agoPost 1
T-Rex-Flyer

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I have a very, very old 450 SE is it an upgrade to go to the Sport version, and what are the differences? There are so many version out there I in my old age can't make head or tail of all the changers, it's getting to be a challenge just to order parts.
Thanks.

If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter.

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01-11-2010 10:52 PM  8 years agoPost 2
NQNA

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It might be cheaper to purchase a new kit then part the difference.. Just a thought.

Ron's Heli South should have the part schematic to help you see what you need.

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01-12-2010 01:52 PM  8 years agoPost 3
T-Rex-Flyer

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Not to pick on you NQNA, but you misunderstood the question. I never said or implied I wanted to upgrade my SE. I asked if the Sport version was an upgrade from the SE and what are the differences?

The part schematic you referred to is not much help for the older versions of the 450.

I guess I should have ask if I should go with a Sport or Pro or just stay with the Old SE until I destroy it. The thing is, this thing is almost indestructible.

Nqna, how do you like the Pro Vs the 450 Carbon xl.

If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter.

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01-12-2010 01:57 PM  8 years agoPost 4
colsy

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I dont have the sport, but ive had lots of se's v1 and 2, and currently have 3 pro's. so

From what i can make out the sport is a revamped se and would say the only real difference is the head is slightly wider.

My pro's fly different to the se's. Different.

col.

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01-12-2010 06:06 PM  8 years agoPost 5
outhouse

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auburn ca

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this is a comparison to a V2. as I dont know what state your SE is in

there are slight frame changes and servo nuts built in. no added performance

new tail hub and tail rotors with built in weight mod, slight performance increase.

same esc new motor though more powerfull the the old XL motor. added performance

thicker head design, with wider feathering shaft. new swash that has no slop like the older ones. great upgrade with better flight stability added.

longer boom supports, no added performance

61mm tail blades, great upgrade much added performance.

same mainshaft
main and auto gear
same belt drive
same esc
same boom
same blades

I had a modded V1 and there was not 1 reason for me to upgrade at all. i did add the sport head to mine for 26 bucks and that was the biggest upgrade needed.

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01-12-2010 06:18 PM  8 years agoPost 6
colsy

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Well rumour has it, that the sport flies 100 zillion times better than the SE.

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01-12-2010 11:13 PM  8 years agoPost 7
LonR

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Ive had both and ive put both next to each other.The Sport is all around better.Not bashing you outhouse but buy a Sport and put a Sport next to the SE V2 before you say theres "slight changes" in the frame or "no added performance" because thats all wrong.The new tail setup is a MAJOR upgrade because it takes care of the tail blow out in fast backwards flight,the longer boom supports helps keep the boom from flexing,theres way more frame to the Sport (major change) along with major changes which makes it stiff as a board and a 80% less chance of cracking the frames.The motor mount,frame braces,frames,boom supports,head/tail setup ect... all play a major roll in in how the heli flying.I can tell you from personal/hands on experience that the Sport is a way better all around heli than the old SE/SE V2..

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01-13-2010 12:14 AM  8 years agoPost 8
outhouse

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well having both side by side I have my own opinion

my V1 and V2 frame's were plenty solid at 3400rpm and my boom didnt flex at all. over 50 crashes and 2 years and about 400 flights without issue makes me think the V1/v2 frames are just fine.

i did the tail weight mod to mine which is more exact then the sports tail with a little alloy added for a weight mod so thats a non issue.

My V1 4s -8 with a V3 head and TT would smoke a stock sport in all aspects and You dont know that a sport fly's better your just guessing because you would have to have the same exact electronics and equipment and set up and fly them back to back to make the comparison Valid.

since most all v2 parts are compatible there almost the same heli and thus fly very simular.

yes a stock se and a sport will fly different I never argued that at all but with a few simple upgrades as I stated the old helis still rock

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01-13-2010 12:28 AM  8 years agoPost 9
knightofcarnage

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I would be a lot cheaper to get a kit without server and gyro then trying to convert the se to sport.

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01-13-2010 12:58 AM  8 years agoPost 10
LonR

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outhouse
My V1 4s -8 with a V3 head and TT would smoke a stock sport in all aspects and You dont know that a sport fly's better your just guessing because you would have to have the same exact electronics and equipment and set up and fly them back to back to make the comparison Valid.
Thats good for you,compairing a 4cell setup to a 3cell setup lol.You have no ideal what ive flown or owned so don't come off like you know me trying to argue telling me im guessing.If you do own a sport like you claim than post a pic of them side by side,im sure you can do that being as you have both .
since most all v2 parts are compatible there almost the same heli and thus fly very simular.
There by far close to being compatible because theres not one frame part the same or clost to being the same,every part is different.You can use the head and tail parts on both but thats it.
yes a stock se and a sport will fly different I never argued that at all but with a few simple upgrades as I stated the old helis still rock
Like you said,stock to stock the sport is better and thats what the OP wants to know.I know you'll come back wanting to argue more but im done here.

T-Rex-Flyer,
If you can,take your heli to your local hobby shop,compair the 2 and you'll see what I mean.outhouse is right,the V2 will fly better with the head/tail setup but its not going to be the same.The sport frames are so much stiffer which helps alot,the less flex the better because theres less ware on parts and thats another + with the Sport frames.Im done here and good luck with your choice .

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01-13-2010 02:05 AM  8 years agoPost 11
rilopez825

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I agree with FlyingHigh450 you can't compare with different power. I used to fly my v2 with a 4s -8 and it was a great head speed but a piggy heli. it weight so much it was sloppy, I decided to change it to a 3s -6 and great power, and flew great. well it blew up on spool up. I think I popped a link and it literally blew up. more weight more head speed more broken parts and parts just wore out quicker.

I purchased a sport super combo rather than fixing the v2. I feel that the -6 motor was great power but the sport gives plenty of power stock. I haven't weight the two because my v2 is scattered everywhere, but I'm sure the sport weight less. It flies for me much better than the v2 did. plus it seems pretty easy to work on. took me 3 hours to put together while rocking my sleepless baby boy.

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01-13-2010 02:17 AM  8 years agoPost 12
NQNA

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The sport frame is definitely a great improvement over the V2 frame. Less part count and seems to be stronger and lighter. The Pro is an even better design however you need to plan the servo, servo arm and gyro wiring installation as you build/setup the frame.

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01-13-2010 02:54 AM  8 years agoPost 13
outhouse

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the only real difference in the air is the wider feathershaft and head which as i stated can be bought for 26 bucks.

since i converted my my SE to V3 status I still believe my opinion valid.

If you have not upgraded a SE then your only guessing as you just dont know.

and fh450 we all know you and your helis, i remember the first week you started posting at rcuniverse and argued with me over all the plastic parts on yours when i said you should upgrade to alloy and enjoy the benifits. with 13 pinked post and 25 deleted i would have to say you still love to argue weather your point is valid or not. Why?

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01-13-2010 03:48 AM  8 years agoPost 14
LonR

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Macomb,Mi

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outhouse
and fh450 we all know you and your helis, i remmeber the first week you started posting and argued with me over all the plastic parts on yours when i said you should upgrade to alloy and enjoy the benifits. with 13 pinked post and 25 deleted i would have to say you still love to argue. Why?
And that was a bunch of bad advice from you and my flying proves it along with the advice I get from the vets here.See I give my advice on what I own,owned,fly and have experience with.I ONLY post in sections that I know which is TT and Align,I post on things ive OWNED.You give alot of your advice on what someone ealse says and 98% of the time there guessing too.Like the plastic,thats a bunch of crap and people thats been in the hobby for years knows it too.Its noobs (2-3 years) that give things a bad name because they "THINK" this is better than that when they have no clue what there saying.This is a video of my Trex 600 Sport with plastic everything other than a head block that you and others (2-3 year old noobs like me) tryed to tell me it will fall apart trying to 3D with it.I flew this heli like this for a long time with no issues so explain what issues you see with the plastic that metal will make better?

Watch at YouTube

Heres my Trex 450 Sport.You talk about your 4cell setup but my bone stock Sport super combo with a 25C 2200mAh Flightmax lipo will hang with the best.If I put a 4cell setup in it,its too much.I might have some pinks (which ALOT are really old) and some deleted post but I can back up everything I say and some.Yours are from making fun of people and mine are from disagreeing over the hobby so I could care less about them.

Watch at YouTube

Like I said,I can backup everything I say and its not based on what someone said.The pics NQNA posted says enough...

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01-13-2010 04:03 AM  8 years agoPost 15
gundam641

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the swash on the sport is wider, so if you have a swash leveler for the SEs then you will need to buy a new one. I just set it up using an old SE swash.

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