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01-13-2010 03:06 AM  8 years agoPost 41
racin06

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Then why even say "some clones" when some high-end helis have had problems, as well. It's irrelevant and certainly is subjective .

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01-13-2010 03:07 AM  8 years agoPost 42
racin06

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Greybird,

You still owe me that video .

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01-13-2010 03:11 AM  8 years agoPost 43
hbk2owner

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Dang jim your getting people going as much as I have In some post.

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01-13-2010 03:17 AM  8 years agoPost 44
racin06

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We are just having some spirited debate, Spencer. Don't ever believe you need a high-end heli to fly 3D and to fly safe. Flying 3D is due to flying skills and flying safe is due to setup, maintenance and flying within your skill range. This should be a lesson learned for you, Grasshopper .

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01-13-2010 03:23 AM  8 years agoPost 45
hbk2owner

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Shoot we could put the 400 into this. People say they are crap. They just need a little work to get the flying good and safe. I don't have all high in parts on it.

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01-13-2010 03:30 AM  8 years agoPost 46
racin06

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True, Spencer. Before you ask me why I called you Grasshopper, if you don't know, it's from the TV series Kung Fu...a classic. You are too young to remember Kung Fu.

Watch at YouTube

"Arise calmly, grasshopper and wipe the indignity off your trousers."

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01-13-2010 11:29 AM  8 years agoPost 47
Greybird

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racin06. No video. This year try a 500-550mm bladed heli. Any flavor will do. I have no intention of being arrogant. But, the 500-550 blade size heli's are the most fun I have had flying RC heli's. The only reason the Swift is so popular is it flys well, and is cheap to crash. About the same to fly as a Trex 450SE. Alright, enough of the being friendly. Let's get back to our normal insulting behavior.......

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01-13-2010 11:54 AM  8 years agoPost 48
racin06

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I'll be honest...I have been very curious about the Swift. I may have to have a Swift in the future.

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01-13-2010 12:09 PM  8 years agoPost 49
Frank Bostwick

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but a swift is not a clone

RIP ROMAN

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01-13-2010 12:27 PM  8 years agoPost 50
Greybird

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racin, I have had many micro, and 2 of the 450 size heli's. Not they are not fun, the 500-550's have "presence" or something. Spooling them up for the first time makes you step back a little further than normal. And, a giant bonus, you can actually see them at a distance. Happy flying. I will try a video in the future. Right now all is grounded. Marathon season here in S. Fla.

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01-13-2010 12:35 PM  8 years agoPost 51
Greybird

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One more post on electronics. I have 3 401/9254's. I also have a 520/251 with BLS451's on cyclic. Without question, even with my crappy flying, the farther up the food chain you go, the better. You certainly do not need the best stuff. But, it really does perform better. Now, please insult me before we hug.

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01-13-2010 02:34 PM  8 years agoPost 52
Melnic

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Hijack:
When I looked at a Swift-16 vs. the Raptor e550 I got, I did not like the spare parts availability. I'm trying to help out a friend this spring with his swift 16 he got 2nd hand and I was trying to look at parts for him. Where do you get parts for it?
What size blades are you running and will they fit 550mm blades?

Racin, the hip term now is "My young Padawan" (not grasshopper)

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01-13-2010 02:35 PM  8 years agoPost 53
Frank Bostwick

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Heli-world or Rons

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01-13-2010 03:16 PM  8 years agoPost 54
Jag72

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Swift 16's
I actually have 2 of the Swifts right now..they are okay models...kind of cheaply built and a bit on the weak side...

but definitely good for someone looking to go larger at a low cost.

getting parts for the swift is never an issue

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01-13-2010 03:37 PM  8 years agoPost 55
!2Old2Fly

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Okay, I'm going to throw my .02 into this.

This really does relate to similar discussions in the fixed wing world (Tryan, you will be able to relate to this).

On any given day, I could take one of my standard class sport fliers out to the field, and fly a bunch of "aerobatics". All the usual loops & rolls, fancy turns, etc. And for sport flying, it would look, and act just fine.

However, I would not even attempt to fly competition pattern flying with one. Yes, they would perform the maneuvers, but not with near enough precision. There is a large difference between throwing an aircraft around the sky for fun, and doing it at a precision level. Taking it up that notch DOES require more precise harware, and better design on the aircraft. Be it fixed wing, or rotor craft.

Yes, you can 3D a clone, and toss it all over the sky. And for the average sport class flyer, that's probably fine. For that type of flying, you really don't need to go out & buy a top end heli.
Just as you don't need a top end pattern class fixed wing just to go play at the field on Saturday afternoons.

Having said that, there will always be those who think you need to throw mega-bucks at anything, and always show up at the field with a crown jewel piece of an aircraft. That's their choice. They don't need to spend those bucks just to fly, but they seem to feel the need to have the "coolest" aircraft at the field.

In fixed wing, I always strove to build my planes as best I could, paying strict attention to keep it all straight & true, with good setup, and with quality radios (I'd never fly anything but Futaba back in those days). It didn't take mega-bucks to do that, and I had aircraft that were good, stable, reliable fliers.

The same bears true in helis.
With care, any standard class clone will fly just fine for Sunday afternoons at the field, doing some sport flying, and 3D. No reason why not.

Sheesh, it must be winter, and you guys aren't flying enough if you have time to sit on here and debate this, on two different boards, to such length.

Yet Anohter IT Worker

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01-13-2010 03:41 PM  8 years agoPost 56
Frank Bostwick

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Well said.
Just to note, you seem to have some time on your hands as well, yours'is the longest post in the thread!
Come on 40+ weather!

RIP ROMAN

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01-13-2010 03:50 PM  8 years agoPost 57
Jag72

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Very well said 2old
Your post was very nicely stated...good job

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01-13-2010 03:53 PM  8 years agoPost 58
!2Old2Fly

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Just to note, you seem to have some time on your hands as well, yours'is the longest post in the thread!
Heh heh . . . Yeah.
I'm sitting at work on a boring Wednesday morning.

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01-13-2010 04:09 PM  8 years agoPost 59
Frank Bostwick

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What?? you are not going to get all buched up because I "dissed" ya?

What do you think you are? Mature?

RIP ROMAN

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01-13-2010 04:10 PM  8 years agoPost 60
Frank Bostwick

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Come on 2Ole', fill in that profile!

RIP ROMAN

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