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01-12-2010 05:29 AM  8 years agoPost 21
JasonJ

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But, will it be operating 10 years from now? The Dynatron will be and with very little maintance to boot.
Excellent question, with no way of knowing. The plus side of the Dynatron is it is anvil simple, not a lot to go wrong. The downside of the Dynatron is it is anvil equivalent in size and weight. So how does someone, say, like me prioritize their wants and needs verses attributes and longevity of a product? Do I go with the proven but balky and inconvenient product, or take the chance on the unproven but much more suitable for me product?

I'm not made of money, but the $120something I paid for the Align starter has been worth what it has done for me and how it does it. It is a gamble, but not a huge gamble compared to trying other new things in this hobby. People are running out and trying new unproven helicopter kits on faith, why not try a new piece of field equipment?

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01-12-2010 07:40 AM  8 years agoPost 22
skytrekin

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A Guy I fly with sometimes has one and in the cold it wouldnt spin over his 91. I dont know what kind of battery he had in it, but the heli came out of his car and was still fairly warm.
Like others I guess you seem to hear more bad things than good. Maybe I will get one and try it.

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01-12-2010 08:16 AM  8 years agoPost 23
Damper

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Dynatron starter with edge adapter, 3 amp makita battery and charger= $180 along with a cordless drill and battery. Align starter $160 go figure.

Full Throttle Spooning Leads To Forking

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01-12-2010 04:45 PM  8 years agoPost 24
whiteii

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Here you go, can't beat the price!!
http://www.helidirect.com/stronger-...q03-p-16895.hdx

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01-12-2010 08:02 PM  8 years agoPost 25
jackheli

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So the rip off Align starter is a PIS in quality?

Ha ha... I mean, I am really sorry for you guys that have it...

It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.

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01-12-2010 10:48 PM  8 years agoPost 26
JasonJ

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Align starter $160 go figure.
Who is paying that? I paid $119 plus shipping, and bought it when it first came out.
Ha ha... I mean, I am really sorry for you guys that have it..
Easy there, pedestals of superiority are often unstable and based on a foundation of false perceptions.

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01-12-2010 11:42 PM  8 years agoPost 27
jackheli

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Easy there, pedestals of superiority are often unstable and based on a foundation of false perceptions.
That is brutal... you can have the same setup, not as fancy but maybe better quality for 1/3 of the price.

I've been using my Minimax for 4 years now, every weekend, starting every size heli possible with no issues...

I've been saying this all along in other threads: what a waste... Spend your money somewhere else...

It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.

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01-12-2010 11:49 PM  8 years agoPost 28
krashtagain

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Spend your money somewhere else...
Yeah on parts and more fuel . I've seen enough issues on here with the yellow pos starter to keep me using my "anvil". lolololololololol

If you're not living on the edge you're just taking up space !

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01-12-2010 11:51 PM  8 years agoPost 29
imnxtc

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jackheli

Like my father used to say:

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't always make him drink.

If someone does not wnat to listen, nuthin' will make him do so.

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01-13-2010 12:00 AM  8 years agoPost 30
Jeff polisena

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All I can say is Flight leader starter,century starter wand with Hyperion 14.8 4s lipo

Ive had this set up for over two years and started everything and have yet to replace anything

I see this all the time. Buy cheap buy twice buy quality buy once, use and sell years later.

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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01-13-2010 12:51 AM  8 years agoPost 31
JasonJ

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I've been saying this all along in other threads: what a waste... Spend your money somewhere else...
Really, now we are telling people how and where to spend their money? Did anyone ask you how they should spend their money?
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't always make hime drink.

If someone does not wnat to listen, nuthin' will make him do so.
Again, an utterly useless statement. Who asked to be lead to the water? Not me. Who needs to be lead to the water? Not me. Why the hell would anyone listen to anything they didn't ask for in the first place? Would you listen if I told you you should wear velore purple track suits? It has the same level of relevance.

This isn't about whether I bought a piece of ****. I may or may not have, but that is my problem. So far, I have nothing bad to say about the product, why that isn't sinking in for some, is beyond me. If the stupid thing explodes on me in a month, well, whatever. I'll try to get a vid of it. That is what happens when you buy a new product. I didn't sit on my ass and wait to buy it, I bought it when it came out. I took the chance, and so far it has been fine.

If I had read countless posts on how bad it was, was told by 50 people it sucked, THEN bought it, well, then everything you have said would be justified. Saying I should have bought something different over a half a year after I bought it, when I bought it within a week of it's release so there was no information on any issues available is pointless, so spare me.

If we all waited to see if something was going to be a good product, we would never make any progress at all. We would just keep using the same old **** day after day, afraid to take a chance on anything. Somebody has to try the new thing and take the chance. Sometimes I do that, sometimes someone else does.

So every time I take out my yellow piece of **** and start my helicopter, I will think "Thank God I can make my own decisions and buy whatever the hell I want to"....

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01-13-2010 01:20 AM  8 years agoPost 32
hampilot

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We flew two weekends in 25deg weather, started the OS91 cold or hot. no problems at all. no stripping, no ratcheting, and half the weight of my Dynatron. Sorry to hear people are having trouble but ours works great.

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01-13-2010 01:23 AM  8 years agoPost 33
BLUETHUNDER

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Did someone mention the Jesus?
Would you listen if I told you you should wear velore purple track suits? It has the same level of relevance.

Watch at YouTube

http://www.80stees.com/products/Pur...ski-Costume.asp

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01-13-2010 05:26 PM  8 years agoPost 34
imnxtc

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If I had read countless posts on how bad it was, was told by 50 people it sucked, THEN bought it, well, then everything you have said would be justified.
I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I was referring to those that purchase after countless posts as referenced above by you.

That starter has now been around for long enough for people to have reported on its relative value. And there have now been numerous threads in a number of forums on its relative hit or miss performance (quality). So even if I were an Align groupie, I would look to other starter systems like those that are reported here to not be hit or miss. Products that have a proven track record.

When I lay my hard earned cash down for something, I do not want to be buying into a lotto (hit or miss). I want to be sure it will do the job I intend it to do, and for a long time.

If I want to buy a lotto ticket I will do so, as it is clear to everyone that is what it is.

I guess it comes down to one's definition of acceptable quality - 1 in 1000 failures, 1 in 100 failure, 1 in 50 failueres etc.

From what you said, you clearly purchased it when it first came out and clearly made the conscious decision that you were willing to pay your money to be a beta tester. And you got one of the good ones. All the power to you.

So I see what you did as being very different then someone who is lead to the water (having had a chance to be adviced of the failure rates) and still does not listen.

I guess what I am also saying, is when someone then still buys such an item and it does fail, I have far less sympathy for them.

I learned, many years ago, the risky value of paying to be a beta tester. Over the years, I have purchased many newly released items that ultimately ended up in the bin, so now I am a lot more cautious about doing so.

In that time I have also learned that some companies must do more in-house beta testing then others, as their newly released products always seem to have less issues (if any) then new products from other companies. Consequently, I will be even more cautious with regards to new releases from companies that are more prone to use their customers as their beta testers.

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01-13-2010 05:32 PM  8 years agoPost 35
jackheli

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^^^^^^^^^^ + 1 !!!!!

It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.

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01-13-2010 05:38 PM  8 years agoPost 36
whiteii

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Other than the shaft
I've loved mine so far and I'll try the new "stronger" shaft I posted a link to above for $4.99 to see if that can fix my only complaint!

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01-14-2010 02:09 AM  8 years agoPost 37
JasonJ

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I learned, many years ago, the risky value of paying to be a beta tester. Over the years, I have purchased many newly released items that ultimately ended up in the bin, so now I am a lot more cautious about doing so.
I hear you on that. It was a hard decision for me, I'll tell you that. I read as much as I could and mulled it over but it was so new there just wasn't any negative press so I finally took the chance. I normally don't want to be the beta tester either. I can't say I have ever been stung if I did buy a newly introduced product, but I don't do it very often. Like I said, if it explodes tomorrow, I'll get over it, move on, and buy a Dynatron.

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01-14-2010 04:48 AM  8 years agoPost 38
Cowjock

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Like I said, if it explodes tomorrow, I'll get over it, move on, and buy a Dynatron
^+1 Good attitude

Damn that ground is hard! When's the right time to get out of this money sucking hobby?

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01-14-2010 10:24 PM  8 years agoPost 39
BLUETHUNDER

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01-15-2010 01:30 AM  8 years agoPost 40
hootowl

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I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!

My starter.... by the way happens to be The Finer Edge advertisement starter....

This IS the ultimate. It will start anything all year.

Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep

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