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02-02-2010 06:18 PM  8 years agoPost 101
synodontis

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we only have your word on this.
so what? you could probably do it yourself, it would take 3 years or more of concerted effort, or read a general account. If you go the latter you'll miss the finer details, but you'll probably take the discourse of discussion that E W Higgs does.
i can't be bothered.
McEwan's point is about the division of individuals and the "warped" perceptions of them, and how they use that "warped" view to justify acts/prejudices that should not have any place in decent human behaviour.

Faith(s) has done a lot of damage to thought, and certain groups of people. Some of which laughable, some very serious....

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02-05-2010 10:08 PM  8 years agoPost 102
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But really, why bother? The burden is on the person making a claim to offer evidence or proof. In this case it's all pure speculation and pretty far out there at that. Unless Higgs offers proof, he's got nothing but a silly story.

You can't make wild claims and say they are true until someone prooves you wrong, I'm going to just assume your wrong until you can back up what you say.

Anyone can make up stories, a person could waste a great deal of time in their life chasing down the false claims of fools. It's a smarter option to just not believe anyone who can not back up what they say.

Anyone who states anything as fact that they cannot back up is a fool. Faith, the currency of fools, is only proof of how dumb people can be. So, if you want to prove your own stupidity, just claim faith.....

Otherwise, offer proof.

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02-06-2010 04:39 AM  8 years agoPost 103
turboomni

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Can anyone here fly inverted nose in??

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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02-06-2010 10:08 AM  8 years agoPost 104
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Unless Higgs offers proof, he's got nothing but a silly story.
My point is the that discovery of the Higgs particles proves nothing. It has nothing to do with "God", anymore than the Big Bang, Relativity, Quantum Mechanics etc. . . Science can't "really" be used to prove God because of the human condition.

Granted, we can all agree that "something" caused the Big Bang. What seperates morons like E W Higgs from sane people, is that sane people don't try to speculate on something that they cannot get a hold onto. Like I said, if he substituted God for an impersonal mechanism then I would have agreed with him.

As we progress we are finding more and more laws about the natural world. The amazing thing is that these laws are impersonal. They don't really have any "consciousness". Those of faith don't like this, they claim that something/someone is behind it all - someone/something that really cares about us. The latter point is important, because that's all faith really is: sad deluded human beings thinking someone, somewhere ultimately cares about them. And they will find any ways and all means to add to their "credibility".

Religion has always suffered from credibility relating to its inconsistency/illogical formulism/paradoxical issues/interperative issues. If, as as some claim, that faith is something nothing to do with science then why should large religious groups attack Darwin and try to put forward their version of evolution? They do it because they want their religion on the same footing as science - not possible. Hence any religion will have groups that split and fight over themselves over interperative issues.

I'm done with this thread now, and E W Higgs is a moron.

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02-11-2010 09:41 PM  8 years agoPost 105
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Yes, I can fly/hover inverted nose in. I perfer tail in inverted though, it just feels more natural.

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