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02-07-2010 01:28 PM  8 years agoPost 41
MAXHSHV

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I have found with my ravens that the modular frame design saves time and money in crash repair, and every thing else you listed is the same for any heli.
I have had a few PLASTIC helis and in a hard crash it is complete and total tear down to replace frames,with the modular frames very rareley does the upper frames break.And the lower frames are $24.95 and half the time i have straitened them because they are aluminum.as for maintence it's like any other heli you have to learn the tricks, like for motor and clutch accsess it's quicker and easier to split the upper from the lower frame,useing this trick I can have a motor out of a raven in 5 minutes or less.

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02-07-2010 06:01 PM  8 years agoPost 42
imnxtc

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No need to upgrade as it IS on the flybar carrier but its a non issue. If one heli could outfly the other Id be really surprised and from what I have seen they are equal.
It is not so much a matter of how it flies. The reason most of the new designs are turning to the Raven style of head is because they are better at controlling flutter tendencies that are more prevalent in some of the aggressive 3D blades available today.
No need for TTube. Its nice on the Raven sure...But for autos Id prefer a belt Pantera if the tail touches. No upgrade needed
For aerobatic autos and for more reserve at the bottom, one is always better with a shaft drive because they rob a lot less power from the rotor head to drive. You can set a belt loose enough to be close, but then it will wear faster and slip occasionally under hard 3D piro maneuvers - that is why the top designs use a t/t drive
Pantera has a releif cut into the ALUM head block so as the jesus bolt tightens about 2" of the head block clamps against the main shaft. Advantage Pantera if you strip out a Raven set screw in the head block
Nope, you must have the older Raven V1 head, all the later V2's had a rotor head like the NX50, which has the same kind of clamping device seen now on all top 90's, including the Predator. These also have a seperate washout guide that will allow you to tweak the swash timing in order to maximize the performance of most any type of blade.

All in all, I find the Raven a more precise machine by far, and the NX50 even better.

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02-20-2010 03:49 PM  8 years agoPost 43
jwhitacre

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I saw this morning the Kinetic is discontinued on Tower Looks like the parts are in stock...for now.

Depleting the world of parts, one crash at a time!!

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02-23-2010 09:35 PM  8 years agoPost 44
C-6

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Yea your right, I wonder what's up with that.

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02-24-2010 03:49 AM  8 years agoPost 45
mundo330

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Kinetic Discontinued at Tower
Maybe it is because tower is carrying the Century line so why do they need the Kinetic? As so many point out the Century parts are interchangeable. I still say keep an eye out on the forums and local classifieds, people buy these and then never build them or change their minds every day! Deals are out there and as long as the bird you buy is a relatively recent model that is still in production you will be OK. Then put it together, get it trimmed and fly, fly, fly!

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02-24-2010 04:50 PM  8 years agoPost 46
oldfart

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And maybe they found that the Kinetic 50 was not very competitive to the Century NX50 that is a far superior model, yet only cost a bit more.

Here is an article that describes the minor differences between the Hawk Pro and the Kinetic 50 and the major differences between them an the now discontinued Raven 50 which the NX50 replaced...and there are even more differences of note between the NX50 and the Raven.

http://www.leisuretech.ca/index.php...__hawl_and_k50/

So as you can see, there is a big difference to the NX50, which has more of the larger Predator design and components integrated into it, then those from the Hawk or Kinetic.

Phil

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02-24-2010 05:14 PM  8 years agoPost 47
mundo330

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Raven is not a larger Predator!
"So as you can see, there is a big difference to the NX50, which has more of the larger Predator design and components integrated into it, then those from the Hawk or Kinetic."

The NX is more of a smaller version of the predator!

As far as the first line in his post I beleive this is what I had said but without bashing the Kinetic. However if you find a brand new Kinetic for Under $200 as I did ($100 in the box) then by all means snap it up. I do not think you can argue that this is a bargain for a beginner or mechanics for a scale project.
I also just picked up another Kinetic 50 airframe that is perfectly clean. The guy purchased it a few years ago and then was told it was a POS at his field. So he bought a used TRex off one of the guys that told him his Kinetic was crap(sound like he was a good salesman). He pulled the motor and electrics out of the kinetic and I purchased it for $50. Now I have spares!
Again look for common helis that have good parts availability to keep you in the air!

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02-24-2010 08:28 PM  8 years agoPost 48
oldfart

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Please reread my statement, I did not say the NX50 was larger then the Predator. I said it was more like the larger Predator in its' design and in some of its' components, as you can see by reading the article I linked you to.

Phil

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03-04-2010 02:32 AM  8 years agoPost 49
reddragon

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YOU'RE RIGHT! The Kinetic is discontinued, I saw that a few days ago and was shocked. I should call them and ask them why.

Wayne - Fly it like you stole it! You're in good hands with Runryder!

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03-04-2010 02:58 AM  8 years agoPost 50
Ghia

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helimax still make the kinetic? Or Tower just stopped selling them?

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03-04-2010 04:31 PM  8 years agoPost 51
mundo330

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To Oldfart
"Please reread my statement, I did not say the NX50 was larger then the Predator. I said it was more like the larger Predator in its' design and in some of its' components, as you can see by reading the article I linked you to. "

Sorry, My Bad, read fast, old eyes, you should know the story. I did read it wrong.

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03-04-2010 04:40 PM  8 years agoPost 52
oldfart

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Sorry, My Bad, read fast, old eyes, you should know the story. I did read it wrong.
LOL - sure can
I also just picked up another Kinetic 50 airframe that is perfectly clean. The guy purchased it a few years ago and then was told it was a POS at his field. So he bought a used TRex off one of the guys that told him his Kinetic was crap(sound like he was a good salesman). He pulled the motor and electrics out of the kinetic and I purchased it for $50. Now I have spares!
Yep - Some people's ignorance on a subject and their will to believe what others say, without doing any proper research themselves, have resulted in a lot of great deals for myself and many others over the years.

At times, it may also be their wish to feel "in" with the group, that may also be ill informed, but either way, it can result in some great deals for those who know better.

Phil

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03-04-2010 09:07 PM  8 years agoPost 53
Gearhead

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""he guy purchased it a few years ago and then was told it was a POS at his field. So he bought a used TRex off one of the guys that told him his Kinetic was crap""

""Some people's ignorance on a subject and their will to believe what others say, without doing any proper research themselves""

Phil, you know I know a guy that is a top 3D RC Plane Pilot, he is as good as any paid Factory Flyer, he doesn't compete or fly for a Factory because he doesn't want the rules and having to be everywhere all the time, well guess what he flies for heli, a Century Hawk Pro, he once told me "people can say what they will about Century, but I have hundreds and hundreds of flights on that little Hawk Pro and there is still a long life in front of it"

Jim
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