RunRyder RC
WATCH
 20 pages [ <<    <     11      12     ( 13 )     14      15     NEXT    >> ] 23553 views TOPIC CLOSED
HomeAircraftHelicopterAlignT-REX 700N › 700 Exploded today/POLL how many have had this happen??
01-21-2010 03:41 AM  8 years agoPost 241
natew

rrApprentice

Brattleboro,VT USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Where have I been? Here's the answer right here!

Rave 90 ENV, Flybared, Nitro - ND-YR-K1001
Rave 90 ENV, Flybared, Nitro
Suggested Retail: $799.99

Trex 700, Trex 500, Trex 450 Pro

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 03:52 AM  8 years agoPost 242
PC12DRVR

rrKey Veteran

USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Sorry, but most of us realize that they just don't care and alan sure as heck doesn't care as long as he gets his check!
I understand Alan's position he has to be careful what he says cmon guys, some of us know how the corporate world works, even I have to watch what I say, and I am just a pilot. I want to keep getting my paycheck too, but I am glad he at least acknowledged the issue even if it was a neutral political statement, he knows.

It is in his and every other name on the box, Lukas, Jason, to see that this does not continue to happen, I'm sure they get a comission/royalty from sales if their name is on the box. So if sales drop so does their check. Reputation is a whole seperate issue, if you want to be a rep, this is what you have to deal with sometimes, reps that help are much more appreciated and respected than reps who ignore .

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 04:25 AM  8 years agoPost 243
classic

rrElite Veteran

All over the place!

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

if you want to be a rep, this is what you have to deal with sometimes, reps that help are much more appreciated and respected than reps who ignore .
I agree with you, but how exactly did alan help?

Blowing someone off with a lame "I never heard of that" comment isn't helping.

Right on Nate!

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 04:57 AM  8 years agoPost 244
PC12DRVR

rrKey Veteran

USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

CJ I agree with you that was not help but I am not going to roast the guy for protecting his own iterest. If I had free parts and a check I would be a little tight lipped too.

No one is suing Align , I and maybe we would just like a fix to a known issue,

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 05:01 AM  8 years agoPost 245
Alan Szabo Sr

rrKey Veteran

Las Vegas, Nevada

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

I’ve never heard of seen of it either. Now what could cause this?

#1 Vibration
#2 Over Torque on installation.
#3 A crash or blade striking ground.

There are many reasons, even a chance on a defective bolt.

How about preventive maintenance? 20 gallons without changing the most stressed part on the heli (spindle and bolt), that’s just not right. Has the fuel line ever been replaced in the tank, within the 20 gallons? How about the dampners, common items that need Preventive Maintenance. Add the spindle and bolts to that list and quit blaming Align on not building a bullet proof heli. No matter how strong you increase a part in size or shear strength, the Vibration is still there and is will show up at the next weakest link. Preventive Maintenance is the key here.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 06:27 AM  8 years agoPost 246
grimthenoble

rrApprentice

Viroqua, WI

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Alan is not at fault for other peoples issues with a product, contact align directly if you have product concerns. For example, if you bought a sub sandwich at subway and they did not make it right would you call Jared and complain about how it was made? NO.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 07:16 AM  8 years agoPost 247
Surg

rrNovice

Baldwin Park, CA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Well, this thread was sure an eye opener...
Can anyone post pics of the complete spindle, and not just the broken end...

Can someone MIC it, to get the dimentions? Is it possible that a Spindle from another Heli might share the same dimentions?

Closely inspecting the replacement parts is a must.

SR: Do you have suggestions about service intervals? I'm a bit new to this, and am supprised that no service schedules are set up for RC Helis.

PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 11:41 AM  8 years agoPost 248
gouki

rrVeteran

philippines

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

yup preventive maintenance beats all! it's cheaper to change the spindle after so many flights than take a chance and wait for it to come apart in flight

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 01:45 PM  8 years agoPost 249
natew

rrApprentice

Brattleboro,VT USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Dont get your panties in a bunch boys, If I ate a bad sub I'd hunt Jared's a$$ down That is if it was impossible to get ahold of Subway. Your the face of the company.
#1 Vibration....maybe
#2 Over tightening...have you installed a spindle lately? Unless the hulk got pissed and crammed that baby home, I doubt it.
#3 Crash...PC12DRVR said his was never crashed and it was in mid air when it happened.
I'm getting irrated that no one wants to say hmm..well what can we do about it...stop crying that align didn't build a bullet proof heli, none of them are. Just agree that the shoulder is s#!t, say yeah man maybe we should tell corporate to put out a spindle for the 700 that is a carbon copy of the 600 and get on with it.

Trex 700, Trex 500, Trex 450 Pro

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 02:25 PM  8 years agoPost 250
jschenck

rrProfessor

La Vista, NE.

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Preventive Maintenance is the key here.
I would *respectfully* submit that spindle bolts are not a typical maintenance item. I've never heard of anyone recommend replacing spindle bolts on any machine after a given amount of usage. I am open to the possibility that this is a recommendation.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 02:29 PM  8 years agoPost 251
gouki

rrVeteran

philippines

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

on my 50size heli, the manual states that the feathering spindle be replaced occasionally maybe align just forgot to put it on their manual?

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 02:58 PM  8 years agoPost 252
rudyy

rrElite Veteran

E. Amherst, NY

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

The manual just mentions the spindle, but not the spindle bolt I guess. So what else needs to be replaced from time to time as a preventive measure. The spindle and the bolt on the tail rotor as well?

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 03:20 PM  8 years agoPost 253
da_man

rrKey Veteran

Central NC

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

I believe this statement alone says aligns bolts are causing issues.

A common bolt size is an M5 for the 90 size spindle, which has no reports of breaking. Align is using M6 bolts and they are breaking.

Clearly said, its the quality of the bolt. Argue that.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 04:38 PM  8 years agoPost 254
PC12DRVR

rrKey Veteran

USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

How about preventive maintenance? 20 gallons without changing the most stressed part on the heli (spindle and bolt), that’s just not right
I have flown MA's and Robbe well over 40 gal without replacing a thing, maybe a couple of ball links, dampers, and glow plugs. In twenty years of flying have never seen a heli mfr put in a manual or suggest replacing bolts at a regular interval. So if that's what you do Alan, why not post your maintenance schedule instead of asking if we do this??

And no one including me is blaming Alan or Align for not building a "bullet proof" heli the whole focus of this thread is the BOLT not the whole heli. The bolt provided with the kit sucks there is just no arguing it.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 04:57 PM  8 years agoPost 255
hanzuki

rrApprentice

London, Ontario-canada

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

If the spindle bolts were a required maintenance item

A) should they not be sold as an item?

B) should a new package of spindles not include two new bolts for each spindle (they currently only include one set)

I can't harp on Alan because he is legally obligated to be cautious of what he says whether he knows whats up or not.

I like the idea of finding a spindle of equivilent size and dimension with a better bolt, but that seems like wishful thinking.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 05:37 PM  8 years agoPost 256
rudyy

rrElite Veteran

E. Amherst, NY

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

I can't harp on Alan because he is legally obligated to be cautious of what he says whether he knows whats up or not.
In that case, I think Alan should have said something like "I will contact Align in this regards and see what can be done, and will revert back to you folks asap"

Just my thoughts.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 08:25 PM  8 years agoPost 257
Fernando

rrApprentice

Madrid

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

I’ve never heard of seen of it either. Now what could cause this?

#1 Vibration
#2 Over Torque on installation.
#3 A crash or blade striking ground.

There are many reasons, even a chance on a defective bolt.

How about preventive maintenance? 20 gallons without changing the most stressed part on the heli (spindle and bolt), that’s just not right. Has the fuel line ever been replaced in the tank, within the 20 gallons? How about the dampners, common items that need Preventive Maintenance. Add the spindle and bolts to that list and quit blaming Align on not building a bullet proof heli. No matter how strong you increase a part in size or shear strength, the Vibration is still there and is will show up at the next weakest link. Preventive Maintenance is the key here.
I would have just added here: "...maintenance is the key here specially when one is buying this type of quality and service support"

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 08:25 PM  8 years agoPost 258
Ladymagic

rrKey Veteran

South Korea

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Can we get an acurate poll as to how many 700s have actually had this happen in the past year? I can understand if 60%-90%+ of all the 700s sold had this happen at one time or another, but right now it just seems like a very small handful. Maybe 10 out of 1000s potentially. There might be a few more that went un reported, but still minimal. I'm sure if a large enough trend was identified, Align would do something about it.

I'm not saying this isn't a concern of mine too, but I think we should put the situation in perspective and see where we stand. I don't know why, but I have a feeling that if you all replaced those parts with new ones the chances of it happening to you again would be slim, seeming as no one here has mentioned it happening to them more than once. All be it, once is more than enough for most of us.

Just Smile Gentlemen.

Mellisa

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 08:44 PM  8 years agoPost 259
Mike Fortin

rrElite Veteran

USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

From the few guys I have seen, it seems like this was very isolated.

Having 4 700's 2 flybar, 1 flybarless and 1 electric @2450 RPM I have not had any issues, I can say the same for Bert who has hundred's of flights on his 700's as well.

As with any issues that Align has, it gets blown way out of proportion simply because of the sheer number of pilots that have the machines.

Everyone jumps on the "Align is Crap" bandwagon for a month and then this issue fades away.

The most common thing that I have seen is that when 1 person says they have an issue, all of a sudden here comes 5 other people who have had the same issue but never said anything or now suddenly have an issue.

Maintain your helis, change out pats after a crash and check your heli after every flight regardless if its a Trex or a Mikado and chances are your failure rate will decrease signifigantly.

Cheers!

http://www.Mike-3D.com

Have Rotors, Will Fly!

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-21-2010 08:53 PM  8 years agoPost 260
Kenny Johnson

rrApprentice

12mile S/E of AMA Headquarters. IN-USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Can we get an acurate poll as to how many 700s have actually had this happen in the past year? I can understand if 60%-90%+ of all the 700s sold had this happen at one time or another, but right now it just seems like a very small handful.
No problems with over 50 flights

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
WATCH
 20 pages [ <<    <     11      12     ( 13 )     14      15     NEXT    >> ] 23553 views TOPIC CLOSED
HomeAircraftHelicopterAlignT-REX 700N › 700 Exploded today/POLL how many have had this happen??
 Print TOPIC  Make Suggestion 

 38  Topic Subscribe

Monday, October 22 - 10:57 am - Copyright © 2000-2018 RunRyder   EMAILEnable Cookies

The RC discussion world needs to consolidate. RR is now one choice for that. Its software is cutting edge. It hosts on-topic advertising. Help RR increase traffic buy making suggestions, posting in RR's new areas (sites) and by spreading the word.

The RunRyder Difference

• Category system to allow Rep/Vendor postings.
• Classifieds with sold (hidden) category.
• Classifieds with separate view new.
• Answer PMs offsite via email reply.
• Member gallery photos with advanced scripting.
• Gallery photo viewer integrated into postings.
• Highly refined search with advanced back end.
• Hosts its own high end fast response servers.
• Hosts thousands of HD event coverage videos.
• Rewrote entire code base with latest technology.
• No off-topic (annoying) click bait advertising.
Login Here
 New Subscriptions 
 Buddies Online