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01-18-2010 03:08 PM  8 years agoPost 161
Primus

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why the would make a combo with blades.
making more money??

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01-18-2010 06:39 PM  8 years agoPost 162
Malc1

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They are standard 690D blades in the combo pack.

Minicopter Diabolo - Kosmik200,Pyro750-56
SpectraG + G26 3D Max

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01-18-2010 09:34 PM  8 years agoPost 163
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690 mm blades for 50 $$ ,that is a good combo....i would get the combo just to have spare blades

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01-19-2010 08:39 PM  8 years agoPost 164
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I see all versions have been released and in stock at Heliproz.com. Do any of you know if you only be able to use the Align tail gyro that comes with the combo?

I just bought brand new gyros for all of my helis, I'd like to keep using them. I've used the Align gyros before and I don't like the the feel of them. They never seem quite as locked in as a GY520 or a DS760.

Is there an option to just buy the everything except the tail gyro? I sure hope so. I really don't want to pay more $$ for a gyro I really don't want or trust. I already have 3 770's I want to get rid of..

Mellisa

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01-19-2010 08:50 PM  8 years agoPost 165
USNAviationjay

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LadyMagic,
the Align unit is 3 Axis so there is no way to just turn off the tail.

So unfortunately I dont see how that will work for you.

A better option for you is the 2 Axis Skookum and continue to use your existing tail gyros.

However 3 Axis FBLs are generally considered superior to 2 Axis setups as all 3 gyros are talking to each other and compensating for each other.

where with the tail only the 2 are talking.

thanks for the heads-up on them being in stock and shipping at HeliProz.

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01-19-2010 09:22 PM  8 years agoPost 166
Alan Szabo Jr

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If you don't want to use the built in tail gryo you don't have to use it. All you have to do is not plug the tail gryo lead it into the receiver for the tail gyro. Just plug your current gryo into the receiver like normal.

Alan Szabo Jr.

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01-19-2010 09:30 PM  8 years agoPost 167
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well there you go straight from the mans mouth himself!

awesome..

guess you can..

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01-19-2010 09:42 PM  8 years agoPost 168
Vance

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Will there be a database of setups to refernce when setting up the flybarless? From what I've read, the myriad of possible settings is one of the biggest deterrents to getting a flybarless setup. Most want to fly & not tweak. Having a database to call upon for reference when setting up is a huge plus.
Having it accessible & organised for easy reference would be the icing on the cake.
Vince D

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01-19-2010 10:07 PM  8 years agoPost 169
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If you use a external gyro for TR yaw axis , is the internal yaw axis sensor still providing imput to the FBL for piro compensation?

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01-19-2010 11:10 PM  8 years agoPost 170
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i was wondering if you can use a bls 251 tail servo with the system

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01-19-2010 11:21 PM  8 years agoPost 171
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I believe it should be able to because it looks like they are using some parts from GP780 gyro and 780 handles fast servos.
And i think darksidedave is right, even that you bypass the rudder input, yaw axis sensor would be providing input , I think that would mess up there math. I would not even try to hover unless the unit is smart and actual disables the yaw axis sensor and make think its an 2 axis gyro (that would be cool). But i have say align 760gy is a dam good gyro (runner up after 520gy and spartan), so i would see no reason to try to by pass it. However i would like align sell just the head so you can use other 3axi units with there head, and make a FBL kits for all there modles. Also is there an ETA on 450 and 250 model 3g unit. One more thing,Alan Szabo Jr can you please ask align to make the blue version also. Love to try it out on my 600N but no blue no buy no profit for align =).

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01-20-2010 03:21 AM  8 years agoPost 172
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So if the external tail gyro is used would you have to use a "Y" harness on rudder channel to both gyros to maintain proper pyro compensation?

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01-20-2010 04:25 AM  8 years agoPost 173
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opps

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01-20-2010 04:38 PM  8 years agoPost 174
knightofcarnage

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This is Berts Overview of the system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjnO...layer_embedded#

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01-20-2010 08:42 PM  8 years agoPost 175
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Oh wow, I didn't expect to hear from "them man" himself. But, thank you Alan for taking the time to answer my question. I'm headed to Los Angeles in April. Maybe I'll see you out prcaticing sometime. I'd love to fly with you.

Anyways, as for the FBL system, I plan to buy 3. One for my 500 first, one for one of my 600s, and one for my 700. I'll try out the Align gyro first and see if this one feels any better. I just don't feel like fighting with it to get my piro rates, stops, and holding power just right. After fighting with the 770 for over a year,I just don't have the energy for that anymore.

USNAVIATIONJay,
I would try the SKooKum, but I watched one in action last weekend and I wasn't impressed. It had this wierd up and down tail bobble during pop stops. It looked terrible. I actually never seen a heli have an up and down wag like that and I've been flying helis for almost 5 years. Also, the guy flying says since he installed it, he feels disconnected from the heli. That's a big no no for me

I suppose I should get one before they are all gone. Thanks again guys!

Mellisa

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01-20-2010 09:10 PM  8 years agoPost 176
Ladymagic

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Another question. So, the 3G unit will only commuicate with the Align gyro? So in order for me to use my gyro of preference, I risk degraded overall performance of the whole system? Orignally, I simply planned to plug my 520 into the unit, but I see that the gyro lead looks to have a unique adapter.

I think this FBL system shows alot of promise, but also what makes a product more appealing to the masses is flexibility. This system would be perfect for me if it could communicate with gyros other than the Align brand with out a software conflict. I mean, most all new gyros function based on the same concepts right? What's the difference between the Align gyro and any of the other major brands aside from the name and the unit's shape? Do you think that will possible in the near future? So many pilots have alot money invested in seperate gyros already. It would be wonderful if we could still use them and enjoy the benefits of the 3G FBL system at the same time. Removing the Align tail gyro would also reduce the overall price by at least 10% making it more attainable for the more budget minded flyers. But, that' just my opinion..I'm not a marketing expert by any means...

Love ya...maybe I'll see you at the field some time.

Mellisa

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01-21-2010 02:20 AM  8 years agoPost 177
knightofcarnage

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Another question. So, the 3G unit will only communicate with the Align gyro?
There will be no communication with the 3G your bypassing it. So you rudder input and gain channel don't make it into 3G system. it still will know what is going on but i believe this will really F up the error correction algorithm. Unless the 3G is smart and only uses 2 sensor for error correction and act like a 2 axis gyro when it detect tail input is gone.
So in order for me to use my gyro of preference, I risk degraded overall performance of the whole system?
YES

There is no point if doing this, really guys if you want to use a 2 axis and your own tail gyro, wait for align to come out just the head parts and get yourself a 2 axis gyro and your favorite tail gyro. It will not perform as good as 3 axis. There is an advantage with 3 axis gyros because i know the tail input from user and the condition its in. This help the error correction. I 100% agree with USNAviationjay

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01-21-2010 02:34 AM  8 years agoPost 178
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Ahh I see. But, isn't the Align tail sensor the same as any other gyro tail sensor? I'm asking if I could use my own gyro in place of the Align tail sensor and still keep the the system 3 axis. would that be possible? I'm just not sure about the performance of the Align tail sensor and I would rather not have to figure out yet another gyro configuration problem.

Mellisa

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01-21-2010 10:57 PM  8 years agoPost 179
Vance

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Question- Does the align FBL conversion work with one servo, so called "mechanical" CCPM? Liek on the Raptor helicopters?
I looked through the manual & didn't see any mention of tis.
Thanks
Vince D

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01-21-2010 11:06 PM  8 years agoPost 180
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Question- Does the align FBL conversion work with one servo, so called "mechanical" CCPM? Liek on the Raptor helicopters?
I looked through the manual & didn't see any mention of tis.
Yes it does.

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