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11-07-2004 11:30 PM  13 years agoPost 2981
Sar

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Pffft wind The wind was no problem unless you hate really fast downwind runs and sorta slow upwind runs Defiently was flyable weather though.

I showed up around 1:50 westhurleyEMT was there with his son and then Rob showed up shortly afterwards. Chuckster showed up a bit later as well.

I love the field, it's okay with the corn, but it's great without the corn! I'm going to try to get out there more often when I can.

What time is the SOURS meeting?

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11-08-2004 02:33 AM  13 years agoPost 2982
azzir

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I think they said 7 pm.

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11-08-2004 03:06 PM  13 years agoPost 2983
Barbary

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rob,
a wild red-tailed hawk killed her. **** happens.

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11-08-2004 04:47 PM  13 years agoPost 2984
3D-RC

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That really sucks.

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11-08-2004 10:57 PM  13 years agoPost 2985
Frequency47

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Bill
Did you loose your Falcon or your chopper to a hawk?

I had simular problems the last time I was flying at Rondout. Whatever creature was circling and screaming 300ft above surely did not enjoy my plank in his part of the sky...


Either way...condolences.

CEO Sub-Terrainian Aircraft Development Corp.

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11-08-2004 11:32 PM  13 years agoPost 2986
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Today I had a meeting with Rob, Subject ( FREQUENCY ) We have determined for SAFETY reasons, As the other SOURS feild is active. From today on 11-8-04 flyers at our field will only use ODD channels! SOURS have agreed to use only EVEN channels. No one is really happy over this condition, because it does require that club members spend a little extra money . Bottom line is we show RESPECT for one
other. Since we are close neighbors.
This RULE applies for everyone sorry, No EXCEPTIONS!
Any questions please feel free to E-mail me or better yet give me a call. My cell phone is always on. I had Rob order me a channel 59 transmitter module and three crystlals for receivers.
So there you have it. It's OFFICIAL I guess we all new it was coming But at least we'll be safe and can still do OUR OWN THING. Thats why we formed this culb in the first place!! So don't let a frequency change effect all the good we have as a group.
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11-09-2004 05:03 AM  13 years agoPost 2987
Sar

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Let's try to get a list going of what channels we are using/planning to use so everyone knows which channels to avoid. I'm on 37.

One alternative if it's going to take a while to convert your fleet is to fly with SOURS if they do not have a problem with that, just so there's no confusion about who's on what frequency. Perhaps someone can ask about that at the meeting, and invite the odd channel SOURS guys to our field until they can get switched.

Some concerns were mentioned to me about interference on the odd channels. This is old and outdated information. If anyone is flying a radio older than 1991 they are doing so illegally, as in, it's against the law. Radios '91 and newer are narrowband radios and this is also about the same time that the AMA opened up the odd channels for R/C flying. Radios older than 91 are wide-band and can feed noise into adjacent channels, which is why the FCC made them illegal(but also because they didn't want to radios to cause interference to commercial frequencies which are placed inbetween our R/C frequencies).

If you have a transmitter which uses a 'module', you can't just replace the crystal in the module, you need to replace the module, or send it in to a service location to be retuned.

If you are flying a radio that doesn't use a module you should move to a channel that is high band, if you are high band, or low band if it is low band. Don't go from channel 40 to channel 21 or the other way around, try to stick close to the frequencies you are using. Transmitters(without modules) are tuned for the frequency they are on, the further you go away from that frequency, the more out of tune the radio set becomes.

Also, if you have multiple Tx/Rx, consider putting them all on the same frequency. There's really no reason to have 20 different channels, unless you are a collector of some sort or perhaps are Vishnu(sp?) and can fly 3 planes at a time.

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11-09-2004 01:29 PM  13 years agoPost 2988
OT45

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I'm on ch 45.

My other two txs need to be converted (52 and 16).Great idea Jon, it would be good to see a list of who is on what channel so we know what crystal to get.

scratch building is not just for planks

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11-09-2004 03:09 PM  13 years agoPost 2989
azzir

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Each time I have been to SOURS field, the guys there have been friendly and extended flying priviledges to me. I don't see any problem with we who are on even freqs flying with them as long as we behave ourselves, as I know we always do. Perhaps at the meeting tonight we can get an "official" ok on this. I would like to have a key to their field since I know I am going to be slow changing over and all of my many and varied transmitters, save one, (just call me Vishnu) are even. Now that it's "official" I can no longer fly at our field.

Geez! It's getting so complicated I think I'll go back to New Paltz!

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11-09-2004 04:28 PM  13 years agoPost 2990
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I have been told repreatedly at least by Graham that we are welcome to fly there. There is a combo lock and I'm sure you can get the combo tonight. I suppose if someone is going to use their field for a while it would be nice to join their club too. I know Bob and I are considering joining there as well. If they plan to make a first class RC park I want to support it. I do not want to give up the great place we have now on a maybe though.

I think we should still consider some sort of a grant program for people who are getting hit by this. I think the club can afford it especially for members in good standing who have been with us from the start and have worked hard to help us make our field so cool.

I will talk to Bob when he returns and see if he wants to compile a list of "victims".

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11-09-2004 04:59 PM  13 years agoPost 2991
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Good post Rob, and I agree. I also am certainly considering joining SOURS in addition to our little group, assuming their fee/dues structure is not prohibitive. I have heard a figure of 60 dollars but I wouldn't swear to it.

Graham and others there are talking about expansion and improvements at the site, and I can tell you there is plenty of room on all sides of the main runway. It could be a great site, and although I would feel bad about letting our site go, that could be what happens. I already feel bad about needing to fly there instead of with the group, but I got all those even numbers! And whats that SAR was saying about the transmitters being tuned to the crystals? If I put crystal channel 65 into a transmitter that was channel 36, will it work? If I change trans channel 36 to 37 will that be ok? Is there a similar issue with the receivers?

BTW, my sole odd frequency is 45.

Oh well. The Bipe is almost ready to fly again. 54 on the AM band.
Rick

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11-10-2004 04:40 AM  13 years agoPost 2992
Sar

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I woudl recommend going from 36 to 35 and not to 37, please

If you can't send your transmitter in to be retuned, you should stick very close to the frequency the radio was orignally tuned for. You should send them in to be retuned though just to be safe. This is where radios with a module come in handy, mostly computerized radios and even the most basic ones have the ability to store multiple model settings to boot.

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11-10-2004 04:43 AM  13 years agoPost 2993
azzir

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But isn't 35 low range and 36 high range there Mr. 37??? But at any rate, whats the deal on the receiver end? Does that make much difference what channel crystal goes in the receiver? Rick

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11-10-2004 08:10 PM  13 years agoPost 2994
Sar

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From Futaba , about recievers:
Most of our 72Mhz receivers are now tuned to the center of either a low band frequency (channel 11 to channel 35) or high band (channel 36 to channel 60).

By tuning to each band, you can easily and safely change your receiver crystal to anywhere within this high or low band range, without having to send it in to be retuned.

If you have a receiver that is not marked as to which channel it is, or if it is not marked with a sticker that says if it is High or Low, you can check inside the crystal slot to see if there is a red mark. If there is a red mark, this indicates that the receiver is High band.
I would really appreciate it if you would not go to a frequency which is used is all I ask There are more frequencies available than actual club members right now so there's a great variety to choose from without doubling up.

Also with people being on the same frequency it brings the risk of accidental turn on's and fiscal responsibility as such, it also keeps you from tuning your engine, checking your controls, taxi, etc while the other person is flying, etc. So let's keep a list of who is where and everyone can get their own channel.

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11-10-2004 09:08 PM  13 years agoPost 2995
jack33

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will channel 33 be ok for my use?

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11-10-2004 11:45 PM  13 years agoPost 2996
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Went to the SOURS club meeting. All went well. If you are AMA you can use their field for even. Our field is now odd. No exceptions please. If you want to use their field contact me and I'll put you in touch with them so you can get the combo to the gate etc.

There was talk of posting a crystal exchange board. If someone puts it together it can be posted to my server if space is needed.

Rob
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rob@unlimitedaircraft.com

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11-10-2004 11:51 PM  13 years agoPost 2997
Sar

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Please post your new channels of choice, I'm working up a spreadsheet with peoples frequencies that will be available to everyone, here's what I have so far:

SAR - 37,23(23 I rarely use this channel)
Jack - 33
Freq47 - 47 (surprise!)
Azzir - 45
Chilli - 39
Ollie - 45
AJT - 59

No one has ID'd the following channels, so if you guys are using em, please let me know so we can get it updated as soon as possible to see what's free. Thanks!

Low Band:
11,13,15,17,19,21,23,25,27,29,31,35
High Band:
41,43,49,51,53,55,57

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11-11-2004 12:08 AM  13 years agoPost 2998
Sar

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Will this work Rob?
http://www.thaltech.com/xtal/

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11-11-2004 12:39 AM  13 years agoPost 2999
jack33

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i will have chris on the same freq channel 33 as myself

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11-11-2004 12:27 PM  13 years agoPost 3000
AJT

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Channel 59

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