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11-12-2009 05:39 PM  10 years ago
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pkfrizzlefry

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Winter indoor Micro Heli - Which is best?
I am looking for a micro heli something to fly in the basement/Indoors about the only requirement i might have is it has to be able to go inverted so no coaxial already have one of those...

it would be nice if i could maybe
run it off a 7C 2.4ghz or even an old 8USuper

Definitely smaller than an Align 250

What do you recommend?
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11-12-2009 05:55 PM  10 years ago
Bundian

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Going inverted with somthing smaller than a 250?
I want one of those too!
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11-12-2009 06:26 PM  10 years ago
jackheli

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I am flying a Helimax Novus cp, which is in the end just a Walkera clone.

Not the best for 3D but it works.
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11-12-2009 06:28 PM  10 years ago
martinic

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If you're really skilled, you might be able to flip a Walkera 4G3V3 (latest version. Pretty sure that the Novus CP is the same as the earlier 4G3). It's a true CP submicro and is in theory 3D capable.

For most, flying 3D in a living room is best accomplished on a simulator. If you're like most, you'll have to buy something like the 4G3 and find out for yourself.

Big living room?

Watch at YouTube

Maybe a 4G6 - reportedly more stable. Also a "3D" submicro heli.
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11-12-2009 06:30 PM  10 years ago
Hellsiege

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What other heli's do you have? I like the MSR but it is FP so no 3d I also have a 250 but no way that's spooling up in my tiny living room
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11-12-2009 06:37 PM  10 years ago
halley

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To go inverted, you'll need collective pitch. There are very few microhelis with collective. I don't think ANY of them accept standard receivers; putting a Futaba receiver on one of these would double the weight-before-battery. They use 4-in-1 which includes receiver, main, gyro, tail. They come with their own transmitter RTF. I don't think any have a heading-hold in the gyros, either.

I've read that the Walkera 4G3 is okay. It's more fragile than the fixed-pitch 4#3B, which I have, but you can find videos of inverted indoor flight with the 4G3. The 4#3B is very squirrelly but can be tamed, and it's pretty stable in a hover or slow circuit flight. It's very hard to take off indoors without hitting a wall due to the low mass and hefty ground effect.

Novus is a re-branding of last year's Walkera products. You can find them at Time Machine Hobbies sometimes.
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11-12-2009 06:51 PM  10 years ago
Stenz28

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3D in the living room? Yikes! I can't even keep my hover in a 15 foot circle yet!

Here's a 14 inch fully 3d capable heli. The Gaui 100.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f48rTEzgviI

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11-12-2009 07:38 PM  10 years ago
martinic

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The Gaui 100 is basically the same size as a Trex 250 and has a headspeed to match. Ouch!
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11-12-2009 07:57 PM  10 years ago
halley

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The Gaui 200 is very close to a T Rex 250. Blade length of both is about 200mm.

The Gaui 100 is slightly smaller. Google shows rotor diameter is 340mm, so blades are about 160mm.

I didn't know this, but they make a 3-bladed Gaui 100 variant.
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11-12-2009 08:15 PM  10 years ago
pkfrizzlefry

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For most, flying 3D in a living room is best accomplished on a simulator.
LOL 3D'ing in the living room..hhah not quite what i had in mind but might be fun if it was possible...ehh it was worth a shot, though some of the MSR or cp proII might do inverted but i guess they are too squirley.. they have many variations of these little guys that's why i asked.....

I guess the SIM and COAXIAL and the lunch time 450 and an occasional after work freeze flight will have to do!

Thanks for the reply's

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11-12-2009 10:44 PM  10 years ago
helicraze

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The 4G6 is much better than the 4G3, i consider myself an average pilot able to do inverted hover among a few tricks, but these micro helis are very tricky to fly.

I would still not flip it inside.

Best to fly the SIM. Even though in the beginning i loved micro helis and persevered, in the end i found i was frustrated and spending enough money to by a big heli.
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11-12-2009 10:48 PM  10 years ago
jackheli

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4G6 is much better than the 4G3
What are the main differences? What would I need to upgrade my Novus CP to the G6?
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11-12-2009 11:19 PM  10 years ago
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I'm waiting for the Blade mCP which will be the collective pitch version of the Blade mSR. I'll be able to bind it to my JR radio and do 3D in my living room. I think it's only a matter of time until the boys from Horizon release one.

I certainly wouldn't buy anything from Walkera.
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11-12-2009 11:34 PM  10 years ago
RobMcQuillen

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I too am looking for something to indoor fly. I'm going to have a small building. I think my Gaui 200 will do fine though.
Its gonna be touph to find something that 3d's in your living room......
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11-12-2009 11:46 PM  10 years ago
martinic

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The GAUI EP100 was ever so slightly smaller. It is the same class heli as a Trex 250 - I've owned and flown both. The GAUI Hurricane 200 is a later version of the original EP100 Pro with many updates including longer 190mm blades and boom. The orignal EP100 with the shorter 160mm blades didn't have much lift; the longer 190mm blades gave it life.

In any case, an EP100, EP 100 Pro, Hurricane 200 v1/V2 and Align Trex 250 are all about the same size and are not going to 3D in your living room comfortably unless you're a super pro.

A submicro is a generally much harder to fly due to the smaller mass and miniscule tolerances.

Living room - not good unless it's huge. Gymasium - now you have possibilities!

You'll probably have to try a submicro CP to see, but I strongly feel that a sim is the best bet to keep the fingers and brain wired for helis over cold winters. The real solution would be to move to a warmer climate - DROOL!
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11-12-2009 11:54 PM  10 years ago
RobMcQuillen

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or buy a RCMIT and keep warm while flying in the snow Rob McQuillen
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11-13-2009 12:01 AM  10 years ago
martinic

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I have these really warm, thin gloves (Gortex N2S), but the lipos don't perform too well in the cold even if I keep them warm in my coat I guess that's where nitro helis have a edge.

I have just flown smaller helis (Trex 450, Gaui 100 Pro, Walkera 4#3, Trex 250) in our rented gym over the Winter. Works okay, but I'm still rusty come Spring. This is the first Winter indoors with the Trex 250 - I'm looking forward to it.
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11-13-2009 12:23 AM  10 years ago
gorn

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you cant upgrade a 4g3 to a 4g6.
Too many differences.
4G6 is torque tube driven tail and has a normal colective pitch tail as well. Main motor is brushless.
Heli is a bit longer than a 4G3.
Do a search on Youtube for 4g6 and Buildem (pilot).
Impressive little heli.
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11-13-2009 12:32 AM  10 years ago
helicraze

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gorn is correct, but the 4G6 is way better in every aspect than the 4G3, but still its too fiddly for me and i have a tendency to break it
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11-13-2009 12:43 AM  10 years ago
jackheli

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Forgetting the torque tube, would the g3 be acceptable with a brushed tail motor, or even brushless? How about the other enhancements?

Thanks.
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