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10-26-2009 05:19 AM  8 years agoPost 1
Marcus24

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Hey guys I was wondering what the max head speed for the super pro is. I have been flying for about 6 months now. I flew a fixed pitch for 3 months and got the fever. I got my Trex 3 months ago and am loving it.

I see videos of pilots that use a pop and lock style in some maneuvers. Can they do that just because of the head speed or am I missing something?

Thanks

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10-26-2009 12:02 PM  8 years agoPost 2
jasnlemons

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I use to fly mine at 2150. That has lots of pop. The jerky popping your refering to is all in collective management. It takes time to learn to pump one just right to get that effect.

Just be sure to have the metal grips to turn 2150. Not safe with plastic!

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10-26-2009 12:25 PM  8 years agoPost 3
Marcus24

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I've got lots to learn
Thanks man

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10-26-2009 12:50 PM  8 years agoPost 4
bmapope

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10-28-2009 12:11 AM  8 years agoPost 5
chopper_crazy

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I run my governor at 1950, 2050, and 2150.

Just keep reading and ask questions. We are here to help

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10-28-2009 04:31 PM  8 years agoPost 6
moyesboy

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Please point me to some reports of plastic blade grips failing at 2100-2200 rpm head speed (since the early blade grip moulding change a couple of years ago)
I've been running two 600n at 2150 with plastic grips with no issues on a variety of blades.

IT is perfectly valid to decide you want to run ali grips at higher head speeds for your own piece of mind, and also perfectly valid to advise others of your opinion. Its another thing to state that the plastic grips are unsafe at what is a common head speed.
A question about this on a UK forum produced a long string of responses of people running high head speeds with plastic grips with no reported issues so I wonder if there is any evidence of the current design of plastic grips failing? or is it from before the grip modification and you are referring to a problem that align corrected early in the life of the 600n?

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10-29-2009 02:35 AM  8 years agoPost 7
jasnlemons

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It may have been corrected. I know when I first bought my first 600 I was told by align reps not to fly the plastic grips. If they have been modified then I hadn't heard that. I am flying 700's now so it is very possible they were modified withoutme hearing. If so I must correct the post.

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10-29-2009 02:51 AM  8 years agoPost 8
Marcus24

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Grips
I have the blue metal head and grips. I am flying 2050 right now. I have started doing pyroflips and a lot of tictocs and want to see a little more pop. I am pretty new but I think that I have pretty descent collective control. Is 2200 to much or is 2150 the most I should run?

Thanks Guys

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10-29-2009 06:15 AM  8 years agoPost 9
brcg123

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Is 2200 to much or is 2150 the most I should run?
the first thing is, what size/brand of engine are you running? the RPM's have nothing to do with the type of heli you are flying. The OS50 hyper is the most popular engine, next to the YS50. both can be ran up to 2250 without much issue. its up to the pilot.
Next thing, Nice heli! BUT, please take your 2in1 control switch off of the landing gear, they put just enough wire running from the regulator to the switch box to put it behind the two screws that hold your engine in the frame, on the right side of the frame. the wires will set on the bottom plate and will not get in the way. If you leave it on the landing gear like you have it, two things will go wrong. 1. it will pick up on a lot more vibrations mounted on the landing gear than the frame, which can have some devastating effects on the 2in1 system. 2. the first time you have a crash, or a hard landing, and break the landing gear, you will tear the 2in1 off, and you will have no electric going to the servos and it could lead to a good chicken dance. Look at all of the heli's you can find and I dont know of a single one that has the 2in1 on the landing skids, and for good reason. Good Luck








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10-29-2009 05:36 PM  8 years agoPost 10
700E

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pop ??
You get that from running 8717's on 8 volts!! Best servos out there! Not give that much pop! Well, maybe the 8717 hv's.

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10-29-2009 06:11 PM  8 years agoPost 11
LonR

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Marcus24
I see videos of pilots that use a pop and lock style in some maneuvers. Can they do that just because of the head speed or am I missing something?
Thanks
learning collective,2150 headspeed and a good set of blades is the key,nothing ealse.6.0V,8.0V or the best servos out there have nothing to do with poping the blades .I can pop the blades all day and im running the Align DS610 servos at 5.1V.Im sure theres other blades but the ones that work really good are the Radix and Mavrikk G5 Pro wide cores..

600LE,OS55,OS PowerBoost pipe,Align 610's,Spartan

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10-29-2009 08:06 PM  8 years agoPost 12
jpla010

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what pitch range are you running Marcus24? I find this to be more important then a really high head speed for pop effect. You'll want about +/-14 and with good collective management you can pop all you want at 1950.

Jonathon

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10-29-2009 09:52 PM  8 years agoPost 13
LonR

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Im running +/- 11 degrees,thats it.Even when I ran a 1900rpm headspeed with +/- 11 degrees of pitch I can get the blades to pop all day the same way,I run the high headspeed for walls/stops,big sky loops,long tail slides,piro flips,tictocs ect..and the higher headspeed makes the blades pop louder .

600LE,OS55,OS PowerBoost pipe,Align 610's,Spartan

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10-30-2009 02:53 AM  8 years agoPost 14
Sonic88

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Ir run +-11.5 deg. pitch and headspeed at 2000 last I checked. I may bump it up to 2100. Collective management if very important. Tic tocs really helped me with CM.

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10-30-2009 03:33 AM  8 years agoPost 15
Marcus24

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(POP)
Thanks guys. and as for the 2 and 1 I have already moved it, I just have not updated the pics.

As far as POP goes I was not talking about the sound they make. I should have explained what I meant better. I see vids of tictocs and it looks like they pause in the middle go back the other way for a split second and then finish.

It just seems like I can not get it to respond fast enough to mimic this.

THANKS GUYS I love this forum.

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10-30-2009 06:30 AM  8 years agoPost 16
LonR

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I know what your talking about (pause half way through the tictoc) but thats somthing I haven't tryed yet.I could be wrong but I think you have to allmost rainbow to do that move.

600LE,OS55,OS PowerBoost pipe,Align 610's,Spartan

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10-30-2009 08:22 AM  8 years agoPost 17
moyesboy

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To get the very high speed response you need really fast servos.
The fastest it seems are the 8717 running direct of the 2 cell lipo.

Lots of folks are running the align 610 on that voltage too (not warrantied).
Probably the performance is perfectly adequat with hr 610s on 6v.

I have BL451s on my ccpm running on 6V and I can get the response you see on the vids running 2050rpm.

My other 600n has slower JR 8231 on the ccpm and isn't quite so responsive.

Maybe you need to be more brutal with the left stick!

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10-30-2009 09:03 AM  8 years agoPost 18
chris newby2.4

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nice heli, i like the skids.

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