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10-24-2009 05:12 PM  8 years agoPost 1
colsy

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I have found myself in the unfortunate situaton where im 'laid' up with my leg in plaster for a minimum of 5 weeks.

So sick of day time tv, i figured i would plug up the dreaded sim and get stuck in.

realised yet again why i hate this 'unrealistic game' so much.

So i got at least 5 weeks to do something usefull????

There must be someone out there somewhere there has 'tricked' this to be much closer to the real thing????

Is there really anyway to make this even close to realistic

Someone give me so hope.

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10-24-2009 05:18 PM  8 years agoPost 2
w.pasman

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I have tweaked reflex to the point where I am confident where I can do the figure really quick on the real machine once I have it down on the sim. Takes lot of patience and tweaking though and some things you can't fix. But these small "errors" seem not to hurt transfer to the real machine.

Main thing is to get the roll and gyro rates, and total power right.

But 5 weeks on the sim, I just do not think that will work. You need concentration, otherwise leave the sim alone. Try a few hours per day max.

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10-24-2009 05:19 PM  8 years agoPost 3
JRjoe

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I think the first thing we need to know is what sim you have....


JRjoe.....
Indoor plumbing??? No, we don't need that!!!

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10-24-2009 05:24 PM  8 years agoPost 4
colsy

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Yes no!!, i have a minimum of 5 weeks on my 'arse'.
I'm a sim hater in a nice way, and i dont intend spending 12 hours a day on it, but i have time on my hands and 3 or 4, 30 minute stints a day i can do, provided someone can help me to make it more realistic.

My 'bond' in the real world is 90 class, and the sim in question is phoenix.

Thanks

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10-24-2009 05:24 PM  8 years agoPost 5
gologo

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What sim?

But I hear ya! Have a Phoenix that has been pretty good, but not too
sure w. all the free updates, it hasn't gone BACKWARDS on realism.
And that darn constant spinning sky, no matter what you are doing,
just makes me put it away time after time.

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10-26-2009 06:04 PM  8 years agoPost 6
colsy

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WOW!!

I'm stunned in the fact im the only person on RR, that needs a sim to be closer to the real thing than a game.

This sim flies so out of 'realism' it's a game. cannot believe everyone puts up with it.!?!??

col.

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10-26-2009 06:22 PM  8 years agoPost 7
jackheli

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To me Phoenix is pretty good also. I have no issues with realism.

Just connect your laptop to your 65inch TV and it will rock!

It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.

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10-26-2009 06:45 PM  8 years agoPost 8
colsy

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I only have 50".

so im 15" short.

is that my problem ???

col.

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10-26-2009 06:55 PM  8 years agoPost 9
fiveoboy01

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Phoenix was always close enough for me.

Everyone who complains about realism or lack thereof in a sim doesn't seem to grasp that fact that it's an orientation trainer, and nothing more.

Mikado Logo 400, hopefully ready by spring.

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10-26-2009 07:00 PM  8 years agoPost 10
jschenck

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a sim doesn't seem to grasp that fact that it's an orientation trainer, and nothing more.
DING! practice uncomfortable orientations and recoveries.

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10-26-2009 07:07 PM  8 years agoPost 11
colsy

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Phoenix was always close enough for me
As a simulator it's so far away it's beyond belief!!!
Everyone who complains about realism or lack thereof in a sim doesn't seem to grasp that fact that it's an orientation trainer, and nothing more.
I dont want an orientation trainer, i want a simulator. with all due respect it is supposed to simulate not orientate.

There must be someone that can replicate a real world heli, in the 'game' world.

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10-26-2009 07:08 PM  8 years agoPost 12
Bundian

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I've tweaked Phoenix to the same as my heli is, whatever I do on the sim I do on the field as well.(just the knees shake at the field sometimes )

I'm using it on my laptop laying in bed every night watchin tv at the same time, I guess you could do the same since you have to lay for 5 weeks anyway.

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10-26-2009 07:14 PM  8 years agoPost 13
fla heli boy

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I've had a G4 for quite a while now and I still have to put a gun to my own head to get interested in using it. Maybe if I had a monster TV to hook up I might change my mind. I just can't get the feel for it.

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10-26-2009 08:00 PM  8 years agoPost 14
James Kovach

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Sure would be nice to know what you find unrealistic about it. I find it to be pretty darn good IMO. Seems to me that my real heli reacts pretty close to the same as the sim heli when I move the sticks in the same manner

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10-26-2009 08:19 PM  8 years agoPost 15
USNAviationjay

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No issues with Phoenix being "unrealistic" here either.

flies exactly like my real helis do in every maneuver I can do. T700N T600N Vibe 50 all fly very very similar to their real life counterparts.
smaller helis seem a bit more unrealistic but I only fly large these days.

tweak and tuning the helis to realistic power levels is key.

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10-26-2009 08:28 PM  8 years agoPost 16
KsSportflyer

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I have the Realflight G3.5. I learned a lot of stuff from using mine. I think it was a great investment. But I try not to use it for more than 30 minutes a day. Sometimes I will take a break from it for a couple of days.

Brandon

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10-26-2009 08:37 PM  8 years agoPost 17
colsy

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tweak and tuning the helis to realistic power levels is key.
This is my initial request, please enlighten me.

Listen ive been flying 'in the real world' for 5 years, and i have owned 90% of every chassis in the market.

I except the sim isnt for 'me'. but there is a limit to realism.

Maybe the t-rex450 @ approx 60/70% speed is close to any of my 90 class heli's. Just maybe.

Point is i want a simulator environment.

Not a orientation. repetative trainer.

col.

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10-26-2009 08:47 PM  8 years agoPost 18
Wingman77

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take the aurora and turn the piro rate down to 300 then turn the power down to 2.3 and adjust the simulation speed to 85%.

this has made it much better for me.

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10-26-2009 09:12 PM  8 years agoPost 19
Bundian

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This is my initial request, please enlighten me.

Listen ive been flying 'in the real world' for 5 years, and i have owned 90% of every chassis in the market.

I except the sim isnt for 'me'. but there is a limit to realism.

Maybe the t-rex450 @ approx 60/70% speed is close to any of my 90 class heli's. Just maybe.

Point is i want a simulator environment.

Not a orientation. repetative trainer.

col.

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Get the Phoenix, it is as real as it gets.
They ask me sometimes at the field if I use sim and which, and when I say Phonenix they go like yeah I have the G4 or Reflex it's pretty much the same....IT'S NOT!
I had G4 before doesn't even comes close to Phoenix.
Phoenix is already good as it comes, but if you spend a little time tweaking it, it is the best sim out there.

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10-26-2009 09:22 PM  8 years agoPost 20
USNAviationjay

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he has Phoenix already but doesn't feel its right.

I dunno what his real life helis fly like but mine are damn close with a few tweaks here and there.

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