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10-23-2009 12:12 PM  8 years agoPost 21
CARLOS LUIS

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INITIAL SETUP FOR MY PROJETC TREX600 WITH 3-BLADE HEAD
I have a new project, a Trex600cf with 3-blade head, and I want to know what is the initial setup in my SK360? Could you talk me about these range of values (Control rates, Hiller gain, Bell gain, Damping gain, Tail drap comp)?

Carlos Arrieta .......The Scale Helicopters are the Best

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10-23-2009 02:36 PM  8 years agoPost 22
WrenFlyer

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I have a new project, a Trex600cf with 3-blade head, and I want to know what is the initial setup in my SK360? Could you talk me about these range of values (Control rates, Hiller gain, Bell gain, Damping gain, Tail drap comp)?
Just start with the scale settings that are in the Skookum unit, they'll work just fine to start with.

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10-23-2009 02:54 PM  8 years agoPost 23
Flint325

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SK360
Great information, I'll be installing one on my Dauphin so let's get the kinks out before!

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10-24-2009 08:41 AM  8 years agoPost 24
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Well done.

"The Scale Master"

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10-24-2009 11:47 AM  8 years agoPost 25
Oponohou

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Hello ,

+ 1SK 360 ? i FLY with a sk 360 + trex 600 nitro + 3 blades head since 1 month...it's so easy , like flybar...

And the video ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIrHEisycvg

So good !!!

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10-24-2009 08:09 PM  8 years agoPost 26
seattle_helo

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Very nice, Oponohou. That looks great.

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10-25-2009 03:53 AM  8 years agoPost 27
kennethw

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Oponohou, very nice. What brand is your Ecrueil fuselage?

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10-25-2009 03:57 AM  8 years agoPost 28
krashtagain

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Nice heli !!

If you're not living on the edge you're just taking up space !

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10-26-2009 03:15 PM  8 years agoPost 29
vermonster

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Looks Great!

AMA#922194 IRCHA#3613

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12-06-2009 01:33 PM  8 years agoPost 30
CARLOS LUIS

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flying like a fixed pitch................why?????
Hi Oponohou, I have the same project, but I can't fly my triblade helicopter, maybe something is wrong in my sk360. Could you show me your values, Could you take some print screen of your values windows in the sk360 software?

I can't fly, because when I try to make a hover, The helicopter makes movements unstable in the stationary flight, similar to the small helicopters of fixed pitch.

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12-06-2009 08:56 PM  8 years agoPost 31
jack726

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I have used the V-Bar, Skookum and Gaui. I will never use the Gaui again. I set one up for a friend. The Gaui did cute little things, like while it was sitting in a smooth hover it would suddenly jump 15 feet to either side. We tried mounting it on the side of the frame for space; this configuration was dang near impossible.

The price of the V-Bar and Skookum are very close when you consider the fact that you have to buy a separate tail gyro for the Skookum. The V-Bar is a more professional unit, with more setup options than the Skookum. If you do a piro with the V-Bar you will be amazed. The two piece V-Bar makes for more mounting options. I actually seem to like the Skookum better. It seems better to me to fly the helicopter with flybar, to get the rudder servo set up then install the Skookum. It allows you to do things in steps, instead of setting all three axis at one time. I believe the pros will like the V-Bar better.

I twice have seen my pod and boom 600 try to roll over on takeoff and landing, when I got a little careless.

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12-20-2009 03:33 PM  8 years agoPost 32
GrantL

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Repairs Started after Tip Over on Spool Up.
This was a post from Skookum (In Part) regarding tip over.. the full text is in this thread on page 2..

"Hi All,

My apologies for not putting instructions for the piro/spoolup bank idea on the website. To recap the IRCHA discussion:

I believe that what's happening during the final few seconds of autos is similar to the problem that some large scale helis have during spoolup. In both cases, at low head speed the unit can over-control the heli. This occurs because it doesn't see a very strong response to swash motion, so it keeps moving the swash more and more.

During a slow spool up, where the pilot's commands from the receiver might not be zero, or the heli is wobbling a lot, that can result in tipping...."

Grant

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12-20-2009 03:54 PM  8 years agoPost 33
Pellicle

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I have noticed the issue were on spool up and right at takeoff the Skookum was a bit jumpy and tended to tilt. Always made me very nervous but it was controllable as long as I paid attention during this phase. Somehow I missed this thread. I like the way the Skookum flies particularly for scale/sport flight.

I moved to the SJGD FS600 due to the issue but wish I had seen this thread. The SJGD works great and is better if you do aerobatic moves From a cost point is the same or lower considering you don't need to have a tail gyro. Stability during spool-up is fine with none of the skittish tendencies of the Skookum. Flies great as well and you can tune the uit to how you want the heli to perform as with the Skookum. Setup in some ways is similar but terminology is different.

For my aerobatic machine I definitely needed the upgrade. But for my scale heli I probably could have left the Skookum on and dealt with the issue as noted in the forum.

Anyone want a used Skookum?

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12-20-2009 03:58 PM  8 years agoPost 34
gian

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I have had the rapid tip-over syndrome, but each case can be attributed to either my overzealous fingers on the controls while still on the ground or my experimentation with other stability devices in-line with the 360.
The 360 is great! But, let me tell you, when it wants control, it wants it NOW and any tip-over happens FAST! Just keep your mitts off the sticks until you're in the air and don't go buggering around trying to get an artificial horizon working with it...

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01-19-2010 12:04 AM  8 years agoPost 35
GrantL

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Long Ranger Repaired
Moved

Grant

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01-21-2010 03:10 AM  8 years agoPost 36
krashtagain

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What about mounting the SK360 ? How sensitive is it to vibes and other electronics ? Any pics of mounted SK360's ?

If you're not living on the edge you're just taking up space !

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01-21-2010 04:36 AM  8 years agoPost 37
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I've not noticed any issues with proximity to other electronics. Mounting is important. You want the mounting to be rigid and solid. The foam tape will take care of any high-freq vibes, but the mount should not have any play or ability to move relative to the mechs. I've used small aluminum plates bolted to cross pieces to do this.

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