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10-22-2009 09:45 PM  8 years agoPost 581
john howard

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how can a mother raise an Infant If she was an Infant to begin with?Confused meaning you don't understand that It takes a male and a female to procreate and both would have to had evolved at the same period for more to be created.
believe In god? orbelieve In the bibles god?I don't see a difference.

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10-22-2009 09:48 PM  8 years agoPost 582
john howard

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just asking.Good for you but the ones that don't believe and are married live a lie.Marriege comes from the bible and Is gods law.the ones that have children must have a hard time also teaching them that christmas Is wrong along with easter and other holidays that most of the world celebrates.

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10-22-2009 10:11 PM  8 years agoPost 583
702nitro

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believe In god? orbelieve In the bibles god?I don't see a difference.
Understand that there are many other religions in the world.The Judeo Christian God wants people to believe in him/it and no other artifical God(s), if you want to be saved and go to heaven.
how can a mother raise an Infant If she was an Infant to begin with?Confused meaning you don't understand that It takes a male and a female to procreate and both would have to had evolved at the same period for more to be created.
This doesn't make sense at all. The ideas that are thrown by the Educational and Scientific community are so far fetch, we might as well close the books and just read the 'Book of Knowledge'.

Look at tadpoles, fishes,etc do the mothers care for them? Point is some species are born with the physical and mental capacity to start off on their own, while others aren't?

Evolution didn't happen over night! It took millions of years to 'gradually' transform from one species to another. When I say gradual, I mean to transform with 'Order'. So you're not going to see in between species with arms and legs growing out off of someones head or back.

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10-22-2009 10:27 PM  8 years agoPost 584
702nitro

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IF you can answer these questions with an answer that has proof not speculation. I will believe that god does not exist.

Those so called Darwinist would like to believe there is no god
but to them I ask what do you have to live for ?
You religious folks keep handing us over the ball and say that the burden of proof is on us to prove otherwise. Guess what, not one of you has answered my question about the fossils that have been found. We have Dinosaur, fossils of homoerectus and other primitive homo species, fossil evidence that show a transformation between species to new species, and countless geological records that point to an earth that slowly evolved and changed millions upon millions of years ago. AGAIN, DO YOU GUYS BELIEVE THESE ARE HOAXS??????????

So it is up to the Theist to provide the evidence that God does exists.
We Atheists are not making any claims that without a doubt 100% that there is no God, we are just simply making the assertion that given the evidence we have on hand, that God does not exists.

So all that is left are feelings, or the hope that some invisible force will save you in the end. Call it blind faith, faith in something without ever needing physical evidence, faith in something just in case, call it whatever you want.

Don't take it personal. We're not here to change your minds, but rather engage in an argument to disprove or not the existence of God in a civil and polite manner.

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10-22-2009 10:38 PM  8 years agoPost 585
john howard

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I do understand that there are many religions,the bible predicted this long before you and myself were here.Also we are not tadpoles we If evolved came from primates and they don't take care of themselves as fish and tadpoles do.

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10-22-2009 10:42 PM  8 years agoPost 586
Gearhead

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""why have we stopped""

Blade Master,, I don't think we have ever stopped evolving at all, I never thought of this before until I have had many people tell me they believe the Human Being is evolving into a higher quality being, meaning People are becoming better looking, stronger, smarter and living longer,

surly a child can be better looking and smarter than it's parents, that alone is proof of evolution !!

and keep in mind the Modern Human Being has been around only 35,000 years, simply put we have not been around long enough to evolve much more, so think how good looking woman will be in another 35,000 years

yes you can say this process comes from good Matting, but in the end it is truly a form of evolving !!

Jim
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10-22-2009 11:13 PM  8 years agoPost 587
Blade_Master1

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So it is up to the Theist to provide the evidence that God does exists.
But aren't scientist there to prove or disprove their theories.
Yes it is hard to prove or disprove that god exists. It is a matter of faith. that's why it is called a religion I guess

I wish I could share some of the materials my religion has provided
because they are very convincing.
The best I can do IS provide a link for you to explore as you wish.
http://www.3abn.org/
1 of the major problems with religion today is the children are born into whatever religion the parents agree with and then the children grow up thinking the religion they attend to is normal or good not knowing any better.

I believe it should be up to the individual to find what is right for them.
I grew up as a Catholic and when I was ready to accept god into my life I also found out how wrong the Catholic faith is !

The Catholic church does not have the right to change Gods laws as they have done
such as changing the Sabbath to a sunday (does anyone else know why it happened and when ? )
or to replace a commandment from observing the Sabath to honour thy mother and father.
Priest forgiving sin when that is up to the lord to decide
The spanish inquisition and there are many more examples of how wrong the Catholic faith is.

So I would like to say, when you are ready, you will find what is good for yourself.

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10-22-2009 11:19 PM  8 years agoPost 588
1stPlace

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believe In god? or believe In the bibles god?
I don't see a difference.
I do. I've studied many religions and continue to study some aspects of a few religions. But, mostly I study sciences, and have much more faith in science, than I will ever have in any religion.

Diejenigen, die nicht lernen aus den Fehlern der Vergangenheit bestimmt sind, zu wiederholen.

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10-22-2009 11:36 PM  8 years agoPost 589
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We have Dinosaur, fossils of homoerectus and other primitive homo species, fossil evidence that show a transformation between species to new species, and countless geological records that point to an earth that slowly evolved and changed millions upon millions of years ago. AGAIN, DO YOU GUYS BELIEVE THESE ARE HOAXS??????????
Hi Nitro, too bad you are not able to hang with the Szabo's. I don't know Danny that well. But I do know Alan personally, and he is a pretty cool guy to be around and a of course a heck of a good pilot. However, since you live in Vegas close to them, I thought you might fly at the same place they fly at or at least flew with them before they became famous!

Now back to the task at hand. I will try to take some time to post some information about the fossil records that you might find interesting. Meanwhile maybe I could get and honest comment from you about my post on the why I think the Universe has to much order to have came into existence by itself. Is that a Deal?

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10-22-2009 11:39 PM  8 years agoPost 590
Blade_Master1

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But, mostly I study sciences, and have much more faith in science, than I will ever have in any religion.
I can understand why you would have more faith in science you can see the proof more often

most religions are diluted, polluted and make assumptions with out proper study.

Check out the Seventh Day Adventist "the religion" it is the only one that follows the bible 100% and is not diluted by other religions even though most of it's members come from different religions.

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10-22-2009 11:45 PM  8 years agoPost 591
RC/helicopman

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You are opening yourself up to be critize for mentioning one particular religion as being better then another.

I admire that and I will agree that all reglions don't teach the truth, how could they when there are so many differences.

However, I am not saying it is the 7th day Adventist.

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10-23-2009 12:06 AM  8 years agoPost 592
1stPlace

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Check out the Seventh Day Adventist "the religion" it is the only one that follows the bible 100% and is not diluted by other religions even though most of it's members come from different religions.
Well, that brings back memories, and a funny story!

One of my flying buddies in Tulsa is from a family of 7th Day Adventists. They are a very kind family, and I love them all. Since i didn't have family in Oklahoma, and was spending Thanksgiving there, they invited me over for dinner. The mother slaved all day on one of the most delicious meals I've ever had. The turkey was hickory smoked before it was cooked. Oh, what a juicy and tender bird! Man oh man! I took one bite, and said, "Wow! It kind of tastes like ham."

And there I was, with a family of mostly strangers all staring at me in horror. You could have cut the tension with a knife. Then, my friend leaned over to me and quietly said "We don't eat ham". As I sat there, with the family still staring at me, all I could say was "Oh? Forget I mentioned that, please? I didn't know!" After a few seconds, which seemed like an eternity, they finally started eating again. Best of all, they barely touched the turkey after that, and sent about 12 lbs. of turkey home with me.

Diejenigen, die nicht lernen aus den Fehlern der Vergangenheit bestimmt sind, zu wiederholen.

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10-23-2009 12:10 AM  8 years agoPost 593
Blade_Master1

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Your right I did and I don't mind the criticism I expect there will be some.
It is possible that I have the wrong 1

the enemy knows how to defeat us " divide and conquer"
and that is exactly what Satan wants. by confusing us and getting us to fight over who is right or wrong.

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10-23-2009 12:17 AM  8 years agoPost 594
Blade_Master1

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1stPlace
LOL that was funny
if you want to piss off an SDA invite them over for sunday brunch
and serve Coffee with brandy or kalhua, bacon and eggs. then after lunch light up a smoke

or wait for them to ask you to attend church with them then say : it's OK I already said my confessional last sunday

Lets keep it light

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10-23-2009 12:35 AM  8 years agoPost 595
hootowl

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"Does GOD Exist"

Maybe "exist" is a mortal term.

Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep

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10-23-2009 12:35 AM  8 years agoPost 596
RC/helicopman

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I have had discussions with skeptics quite a bit in the past and I know that one of the things they like to do is divide and conquer. Some of the ones I had discussions with were also college professors and they were real tough. So even though I don't think all religions lead to God, I try not to take too much of a side on a public forum like this, when picking one religion over another, unless that is the original posting.

However, I admire you standing up and taking a side, even if I don't personal agree with it.

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10-23-2009 12:46 AM  8 years agoPost 597
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Like those few other sane contributions posted here on Doug's thread, this quote posted earlier by flyboy907 bears repeating:
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts
For those few Tall Thinkers who'd like to learn more, click here.

Fable Thumpers and other blind plebes won't find anything useful there so don't bother clicking -- it'll only piss you off cuz it's mostly over your heads.

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10-23-2009 01:03 AM  8 years agoPost 598
Blade_Master1

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Gimbalfan
Thanks for the link
one thing I find puzzling is where do they get the figures for their timeline
how would they know what was around 35 billion years ago?
I find it peculiar that scientist always say millions of years ago but there numbers never really match

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10-23-2009 01:06 AM  8 years agoPost 599
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Check out the Seventh Day Adventist "the religion" it is the only one that follows the bible 100% and is not diluted by other religions even though most of it's members come from different religions.
This only means the SDA's have focused their insanity to a sharper point.

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10-23-2009 01:07 AM  8 years agoPost 600
Fred Stone

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The date lines of the ancient records get very smudged so misinterpretations are inevitable.

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