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10-22-2009 01:04 AM  8 years agoPost 521
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Ok so who created God? - STR8HUCKIN
This elegant yet simple question has more potential than just about anything else posted here to prompt logical, sensible conclusions which could put the never-ending nonsense of the Fable Thumpers in its proper illogical place.

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10-22-2009 01:18 AM  8 years agoPost 522
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Who created God. I have been following this subject so I thought I would offer my opinion. God was not created, he has always existed! If there is a first cause then the first cause cannot be created, just my opinion for what it's worth

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10-22-2009 01:20 AM  8 years agoPost 523
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God was not created, he has always existed! If there is a first cause then the first cause cannot be created
Wrong on both counts. Gods exist only between the ears of the misinformed.

That you imagine otherwise has no connection whatsoever to what is real.

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10-22-2009 01:25 AM  8 years agoPost 524
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Wow, your fast! I try to edit my comments and before I could get it done it was already being quoted.
Wrong on both counts.
That you imagine this is so has no connection whatsoever to what is real
I am not really imagining anything. But if I am wrong how do you know?

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10-22-2009 01:28 AM  8 years agoPost 525
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This elegant yet simple question has more potential than just about anything else posted here to prompt logical, sensible conclusions which could put the never-ending nonsense of Fable Thumpers in its proper illogical place.
Well, that's where the depth of human understanding completely stops, on both sides of the argument.

On one side, there was nothing... Bang! And the universe existed. How does nothing form everything? No reason, No cause...

On the other side, God is infinite and needs no reason to exist. He just does! No reason, No cause...

Diejenigen, die nicht lernen aus den Fehlern der Vergangenheit bestimmt sind, zu wiederholen.

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10-22-2009 01:29 AM  8 years agoPost 526
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I am not really imagining anything. But if I am wrong how do you know?
Worth repeating for those who may have missed its meaning:
"Ever wake up from a dream still so vivid in your mind, that -- for those first few moments after you rise -- you're absolutely certain it was real?"
That's an easy-to-recognise example of the power of the human imagination.

The main reason so many are so misinformed -- even here in the midst of the 'Information Age' where verifiable facts arrive mere seconds after questions are posed -- is cuz most folks never learn (or were never taught) to recognize and distinguish the difference between what they imagine and what is real.

An inability to discern between the two usually leads to existential blindness.

In this day and age, to imagine the existence of gods (especially as spewed forth by organized religions) is no less foolish than imagining the Earth is flat.

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10-22-2009 01:30 AM  8 years agoPost 527
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Who said God did not have a reason to exist!

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10-22-2009 01:31 AM  8 years agoPost 528
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There is no god. God doesn't exist in the real world and what's more, god is whatever you need god to be. A druplex blue bunnyrabbit or otherwise.

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10-22-2009 01:31 AM  8 years agoPost 529
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GimballFan, You still have not answered my question?

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10-22-2009 01:34 AM  8 years agoPost 530
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GimballFan, You still have not answered my question?
Oh really? Hmmm . . .

Let's try it again with a similar but different string of words:

There are no gods, no devils, no heaven nor hell. They're ONLY figments of our magnificent human imaginations -- just like Santa Claus, Easter Bunnies, Bogeymen and fire-breathing dragons. They were imagined into 'existence' by understandably frightened or confused early humans, for no other reason than to furnish comforting (therefore popular, though mistaken) explanations for random misfortunes -- and other mysteries undefined or misunderstood.

How's that?

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10-22-2009 01:35 AM  8 years agoPost 531
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GimballFan, You still have not answered my question?
and neither will the jimmy ferris wheel blutcrocks of the ancient order of manthung be iteratively confined to preconceptive oblungs prior to the iital argument. What ever that was.

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10-22-2009 01:44 AM  8 years agoPost 532
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Fred, can you explain that in American English?

Diejenigen, die nicht lernen aus den Fehlern der Vergangenheit bestimmt sind, zu wiederholen.

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10-22-2009 01:46 AM  8 years agoPost 533
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GimballFan, You still have not answered my question?
and neither will the jimmy ferris wheel blutcrocks of the ancient order of manthung be iteratively confined to preconceptive oblungs prior to the iital argument. What ever that was.
Fred, can you explain that in American English?
Fred's a lesser-known Tall Thinker -- but a Tall Thinker nonetheless. Cut him some slack -- it's 2am where he lives.

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10-22-2009 02:22 AM  8 years agoPost 534
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Yeah, but it is nearly 6:30 were you are and I am not understanding anything any of you guys are posting.

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10-22-2009 02:29 AM  8 years agoPost 535
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Yeah, but it is nearly 6:30 were you are and I am not understanding anything any of you guys are posting.

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10-22-2009 02:40 AM  8 years agoPost 536
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I am not understanding any of it.

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10-22-2009 02:48 AM  8 years agoPost 537
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I am not understanding any of it.
That's an excellent place to start. Answers are available for those who are curious enough to be relentless in their pursuit of them. Not everyone is.

You won't find many honest answers in churches. Despite what good a small percentage of them occasionally do, religious organizers first and foremost want your money, and most will tell you anything they think you want to hear in order to get it. ALL organized religions are first and foremost businesses.

The best sources for the answers you're looking for are libraries, book stores, colleges and universities. And pay very close attention to human nature.

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10-22-2009 02:56 AM  8 years agoPost 538
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Fred's a lessor-known Tall Thinker -- but a Tall Thinker nonetheless. Cut him some slack -- it's 2am where he lives.
That is no excuse to make me ponder the jimmy ferris wheel blutcrocks, which I suspect is the bullocks of a amber fluid filled Englishman, or the ancient order of manthung, when all I can associate is Ban Thung Man!

Fred!

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10-22-2009 03:05 AM  8 years agoPost 539
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You won't find many honest answers in churches. Despite what good a small percentage of them occasionally do, religious organizers first and foremost want your money, and most will tell you anything they think you want to hear in order to get it. All organized religions are first and foremost businesses.
That, I would disagree with. The lions share of churches out in our communities do a good job within their communities helping folks. You just don't hear about them very much because they are not looking for publicity.

The ones you do hear about are the ones that fail because of some type of corruption or the large televangelist TV religious organizations, etc, etc, etc. Those, I would not support at all.

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10-22-2009 03:15 AM  8 years agoPost 540
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I disagree with some of it too. Just because you don't find honest answer in some churches don't mean there are no honest answer to be find.

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