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01-19-2010 05:33 AM  8 years agoPost 141
TMoore

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Dave, your local paint and body supply house will have all grits of SB available to choose from or at should have them. Even in my little podunk town here in the hinterlands we can get the SB we need.

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01-19-2010 02:19 PM  8 years agoPost 142
dkshema

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I need to find my local paint and body supply -- at least the one from where I purchased my PPG Omni AU a couple of years ago. It would seem that they were in the middle of about ten to 12 feet of river water during our June 2008 flood. I don't know if they survived and relocated, or if they, like many other downtown businesses simply got washed out, never to return. A trip through the current Yellow Pages is in order.

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01-26-2010 10:10 AM  8 years agoPost 143
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Hello,I have enjoyed reading this thread...it really brings me back to my first rc anything...a schluter champion back when it was the newest bird out there.Here are a couple points that might save you some grief down the road...I asume the main shaft setup on this is like the champ where the main shaft is held in place by two collars that have two each very small grub screws.You should locate where they sit on the shaft and grind small flats so they sit better.This will better keep the shaft from possibly moving down and having the tail gear rip up the main gear...also a small self tapping screw is put thru the frame into the tail boom to keep it rotating.I still have 2 champs and know how hard it is to get parts so I just dont crash them Also have you thought about drilling out the tail drive wire guides and installing a brass tube for the wire to run inside of(greased of course)this helps with binding.Good luck with your bird.

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01-27-2010 04:29 AM  8 years agoPost 144
dkshema

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Thanks for the build suggestions. My Superior and Champions of days gone by didn't seem to suffer the same problems you noted, but I will take the ideas under consideration.

I found some 600 grit wet-or-dry sandpaper at the local Home Depot this weekend. I spent some time this evening attacking the shiny plastic canopy. It's now a nice, uniform, dull, opaque canopy.

Unfortunately, the weather turned nasty here yesterday. It's 9 degrees at present, tomorrow is supposed to top out at something like +12. Not exactly what you'd call good weather for spraying paint.

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01-29-2010 04:32 AM  8 years agoPost 145
dkshema

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Ok, I rounded up some 600 grit wet-or-dry sandpaper and attacked the canopy, sanding wet. It took awhile, but at the end of the process, I had a fairly smooth, opaque canopy. Big divots and scratches were a thing of the past.

Then, in spite of it being about 11 degrees outside last night, and about 50 degrees in my garage, I whipped out the well-used rattle can of Rustoleum Primer for Plastic. The spray valve was plugged. Darn, but being resourceful, I popped the cap off another can of Rustoleum, pulled the spray valve, put it on my primer can and voila, I was in business.

About 12 hours later, I brought the canopy inside, where it sat another 8 hours or so. The finish was a bit on the rough side and it seemed that it might be too rough, giving me a poor color coat.

Another hour with the 600 grit paper, a cup of water, and some elbow grease yielded a primed canopy that is smooth as a baby's bottom.

Next step? Think up a paint scheme, see if I'm daring enough to try it. Add the color base coat. Plan B? Solid color, mask it off, add in a darker colored "windshield". Whatever I do, the final coat is PPG Omni AU, hardener, and a nice warm, sunny calm Saturday afternoon.

Still have to get me a cooling shroud extension, still have to mount the tank and plumb it, and I still have to order one of those pressure nipples from Tower Hobbies and mod the muffler.

This baby's getting might close to being done. Can't wait to fire it up and start breaking in the motor. Can't wait for two reasons. First, it means I'm finished and about to fly it. Second, it means that it won't be 4 degrees out, snow on the ground, with gray skies and biting wind.

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01-29-2010 05:41 AM  8 years agoPost 146
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This build takes me back.... now I want my old heli's...

On the subject of lubricants..... Has anyone used a blend of the new super-synthetic light stuff called "ProLong" ? I use it in my car and it does wonders to prevent wear. It does not break down at moderate temperatures, and it is very low viscosity with outstanding friction prevention. Lord knows what it is exactly, but with a 50/50 blend of aviation oil (50 wt.) and this stuff it seems to do nice things for bearings. I am using it in my bearings on my heli's now. I wonder if anyone else has tried the stuff. Any comments?

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01-29-2010 05:22 PM  8 years agoPost 147
Carey

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I like the idea of an old retro custom motorcycle tank paint job. Something like what Indian Larry would paint, RIP.

This thing is retro to begin with no?

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01-29-2010 08:14 PM  8 years agoPost 148
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Big Coppitt Key, FL

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Something like what Indian Larry would paint, RIP.
A little off topic, but I'll bet there's not many here who know what "R.F." stands for on the T-shirt of Carey's 'Indian Larry's' motorcycle's hood ornament.

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01-29-2010 09:54 PM  8 years agoPost 149
Carey

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Rat Fink? Would look funny on the Schluter.

I am prolly wrong though.

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01-29-2010 09:55 PM  8 years agoPost 150
darkfa8

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how about Captain Kangaroo?

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01-29-2010 10:14 PM  8 years agoPost 151
dkshema

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Man, I think this thread just took a nasty turn.

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01-30-2010 12:17 AM  8 years agoPost 152
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Man, I think this thread just took a nasty turn.
Ugly too.

And yet the sheer weight of the Excellence of this legacy build by one of RC's most qualified legacy heli builders surely will swiftly steer it back on course.

None of us want to see Rat Fink anywhere on your Superior, Dave.

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01-30-2010 12:36 AM  8 years agoPost 153
dkshema

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Rat Fink would be unique, but I'm not an artist. Airbrushes and I just don't get along well.

Just don't expect flames, skulls, or lightning bolts. It may just turn out to be a rather plain canopy with a good clear coat. But since the weather here isn't supposed to be too great for being outdoors for awhile here, I think I have time to think up a paint job.

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02-09-2010 04:26 AM  8 years agoPost 154
dkshema

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Well, progress.

The Rustoleum plastic primer sat for about a week, I then lightly sanded with some more 600 grit - wet - to smooth the surface just a hair.

Then, the base color went on a few nights ago. Nothing fancy, but something I can work with. Two light coats, the second one sprayed wet while making sure I didn't get any runs or sags...

After this stuff cures for awhile, I'll mask off everything but the windshield area, then add a nice windscreen. Maybe black, maybe a shade of darker blue --- I'll have to go shopping to see what fine colors are available in Rustoleum.

After that cures, maybe some more masking, and perhaps some additional trim. Who knows.

The weather still sucks here, so I'll have some time on my hands for painting. Eventually, however, it has to turn nice enough to roll out the compressor, spray gun, and mask, so I can shoot the Omni AU clear coat and finish it off.

As I said, no skulls or flames....I'm an engineer, not an artist.

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02-09-2010 04:54 AM  8 years agoPost 155
GimbalFan (RIP)

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An exceptionally productive Winter for you, eh Dave? What else might you have been fooling around with these last few months if not for this Schluter?

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02-09-2010 05:52 AM  8 years agoPost 156
dkshema

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It has kept me away from building any ....

...ugh...

....planks!

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02-09-2010 09:20 AM  8 years agoPost 157
GimbalFan (RIP)

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...ugh...planks!
Oh no you di-ent!

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02-21-2010 09:21 PM  8 years agoPost 158
dkshema

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Still nasty cold outside, perhaps another 4 to 6 inches of snow predicted for tonight. But I did get another color of paint and ferreted out some masking tape, and took a shot at defining a windshield based on the molded-in lines of the canopy.

I had a little trouble with the masking in a few spots, nothing serious, and now my canopy has a windshield...

I need to clean up the blue/yellow demarcation lines, but the blue stuff needs to dry for a few days. Meanwhile, if I can find some black, thin, flexible, narrow pin-striping tape, perhaps I can use that over the transition areas to get a nice, clean line all the way around.

Maybe a few more additions to the color scheme, some decent weather so I can fire up my compressor and shoot some Omni AU clear coat over the whole mess...I'll be done.

My tank's in, I got my Hirobo hex-start adapter installed (but need to fashion a spacer to go between its bottom side and the inner bearing race up on the top bearing block). I might want to grind a flat on the start shaft for the set screw.

About the only thing I'm now missing is a pressure tap from Tower Hobbies to modify the exhaust so I get some muffler pressure into the tank, a regulator and battery pack for the on-board electronics, and of course, decent weather.

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02-21-2010 10:00 PM  8 years agoPost 159
Badgerfarm

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It should look really nice...very similar to this Magic.

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02-21-2010 11:03 PM  8 years agoPost 160
dkshema

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That deep dark transparent blue is a nice touch. My canopy was too scratched and dulled from many years of storage to consider that kind of finish. I suppose I could have bought a new one from Vintage Heli Parts, but figured I'd use what I got.

Oooh, that Vintage Heli parts thing just reminded me, I still need to do something about a cooling shroud extension....

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Badger -- your shop seems to be full of some nice vintage stuff. I think I see a well-cared for Champion in there. Nice. Wouldn't mind flying one of those again.

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