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09-20-2009 08:34 AM  11 years ago
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Brezinski Calls for Obama to Shoot Down Israeli Jets
Yea Why Not....It seems the obama administration turns every thing else inside out.... Might as well go ahead and destroy our allies and kiss our enemies A##... Typical Obama!! What a freaking scumbag

[quote]Brezinski Calls for Obama to Shoot Down Israeli Jets; "A Liberty in Reverse"

In a little noticed interview with the Daily Beast (presumably little noticed because serious people don't read the Daily Beast), Zbigniew Brzezinski suggests that Barack Obama do more than just refuse to support an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear sites -- the American president must give the order to shoot down Israeli aircraft as they cross Iraqi airspace:

DB: How aggressive can Obama be in insisting to the Israelis that a military strike might be in America’s worst interest?

Brzezinski: We are not exactly impotent little babies. They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch?

DB: What if they fly over anyway?

Brzezinski: Well, we have to be serious about denying them that right. That means a denial where you aren’t just saying it. If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have the choice of turning back or not. No one wishes for this but it could be a Liberty in reverse.

Contrary to Brezinski's half-hearted disclaimer that no one wishes for such an outcome, there are plenty on the left who would delight in a pitched battle between the United States and Israel. Democrats in Congress routinely support resolutions affirming Israel's right to take whatever steps it deems necessary to assure its own national defense. And Obama has at least paid lip service to the concept. But hostility to Israel among the rank and file is very real on the left -- and among "realists."

So conjure the image -- the Obama administration sending U.S. aircraft up to protect Iran's airspace and it's nuclear installations from an attack by a democracy that is one of America's closest allies. Unfortunately, this may not be so hard to imagine in Israel, where the number of people who believe Obama is pro-Israel is at just 4 percent -- and falling. And given Obama's (literally) submissive posture to the Saudis, his indulgence of the Iranians, and his simultaneously hard-line approach to Israel, it seems even some of Obama's supporters can savor the possibility of a "reverse Liberty."
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09-20-2009 02:36 PM  11 years ago
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Never going to happen. Brezinski can shoot his mouth off all he wants. Too many politicians rely on the jewish voter block to allow it to happen. Not to mention Israel is our junkyard dog in the middle east. They'll do what we will only talk about, take out Iran's nuclear program if it gets too far along.
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09-20-2009 02:57 PM  11 years ago
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The other side of this is that we wouldn't just be able to shoot them down without it getting very messy for us. Israel's airforce isn't exactly helpless. We would prevail but not for free.
And for what? Iran's government will still want to destroy us whenever they think that it would be possible.
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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09-20-2009 06:54 PM  11 years ago
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I guess the part that bothers me the most is what Glenn Beck talks about !! The idiots that he surrounds him self with!!Hirobo Evo 50 ,Jr9303 ((( Are Those Things Hard To Fly ?? Nah !! Snicker )))
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09-20-2009 07:47 PM  11 years ago
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Glen Beck is nothing more than an entertainer. He's just like Howard Stern in that if he doesn't say shocking things people will get bored and nobody will bother to listen. The same applies to the left with groups like MoveOn.org. If they don't say stuff to whip people up into a frenzy they'd be out of business in six months. It's all just BS to get into the headlines and make people listen to their shows.

The truth is that people like Glen Beck and Rush were nothing until the left made them into the bogeymen they are today. For the left they serve the purpose of being strawmen to stand up and knock down to make their base feel good. The ironic part is that it also has driven listenership up.
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09-20-2009 08:11 PM  11 years ago
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[quote]Glen Beck is nothing more than an entertainer. He's just like Howard Stern

Excuse me but when did the foul mouth raunchy Howard Stern ever say anything that has any meaning. That's like comparing beef stew to cat poop!!

YOUR AN IDIOT

You must be a big Stern Fan...you can definitely learn a lot from his show.

So let me get this straight.... You say that Glenn is all BS!! Then try explaining all the nut jobs communist, Marxists and revolutionaries that all surround the president.. You know you can keep sticking your head in the ground but the question still doesn't go away. What about the folks like all these czars surrounds him!!
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09-20-2009 09:21 PM  11 years ago
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Dragon2115, you don't have a clue do you? Glenn Beck personally got rid of the communist radical anarchist Van Jones. No one and I mean NO ONE reported this except for Glenn Beck. He didn't let off until Jones was gone. You should actually watch the Glenn Beck show once. You would learn something...

Glenn Beck is a true American Patriot and when I see someone make a statement like yours if confirms to me how Obama got elected. He was elected by people that don't have a clue!

Everything was out there to let people know not to vote for this guy but they did anyway..Brain dead people voted him in and now we are paying the price for it.

A vote for Obama was like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders!
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09-20-2009 09:31 PM  11 years ago
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Israel is our junkyard dog in the middle east.
I like that, and it is true.
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09-20-2009 10:31 PM  11 years ago
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I guess the part that bothers me the most is what Glenn Beck talks about !! The idiots that he surrounds him self with!!
You are worried about the people around Beck and not the ones around the President?
Obama has cornered the market on idiots with all of the ones he has installed in the Whitehouse!
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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09-20-2009 10:40 PM  11 years ago
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YOUR AN IDIOT
Who's an idiot? Use your brain.
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09-20-2009 11:04 PM  11 years ago
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Israel is our junkyard dog in the middle east.
I like that, and it is true.
Uhmmm not so sure about that

from a biased webpage so not so sure ifthe quote is true but
enough to make me think
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001
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09-21-2009 12:32 AM  11 years ago
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First. I don't listen to Howard Stern.

Second you need to learn the difference between entertainment (Beck) and actual jounalism, something we don't actually have anymore which is probably why you can't tell the difference.

The way these people work (Beck and to all of these commentators both left and right) is they take a nugget of truth and wrap it up in charged rhetoric to get their listeners, both the ones that like them and the ones that despise them, to keep talking about them. NPR tries to do the same thing except they fail miserably at it. Say a few controversial things on-air and you stay in business. Sorry if you don't understand how these people keep you listening but that's the way it is.

Oh and Rotor, I didn't vote for Obama. I don't like McCain either but he was the lesser of the two evils. And yes, I know exactly what Obama is and how he got elected. With any luck he'll only be a one-term wonder.
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09-21-2009 01:06 AM  11 years ago
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I didn't mean the folks around BECK!! I meant OBAMA and all those radicals around him!!

I feel that Glen is doing a job that no one else will touch and I fear every day for him. I know there is a lot of idiots that would love to shut him up at any cost.

[quote]Second you need to learn the difference between entertainment (Beck) and actual jounalism, something we don't actually have anymore which is probably why you can't tell the difference.

Geeze you must be talking about some of those true journalist like
Keith Olbermann or Chris Matthews yea those guys are true wonders !!
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09-21-2009 12:24 PM  11 years ago
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Let me repeat this for you again because I think you missed it when you were copying and pasting it.

"Second you need to learn the difference between entertainment (Beck) and actual jounalism, something we don't actually have anymore which is probably why you can't tell the difference."

And that includes Olbermann and Matthews. They're two of the people I meant when I said the left does it too. I'm sorry if I confused you by not mentioning them by name.
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09-21-2009 05:51 PM  11 years ago
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Glenn Beck has said and will readily tell you he is NOT a journalist but here's the kicker....he's the only one doing "journalist" work with this. No one else wants to go against the bHo's machine and/or agrees with what he is doing.

Every single journalist in the United States should have jumped on the story about Van Jones being a communist radical anarchist revolutionary and is very close to the president but not a single one did! That should tell us a lot.

It took someone who does not claim to be a journalist to do the job of the coward journalists that would not do their jobs.

The main stream media is not a correct term anymore. They should now be called the "fringe stream media" because they no longer represent the main stream..

I sure hope Glenn Beck keeps doing what he's doing and maybe some of the US journalists will switch from being cowards and become brave patriots for this country..
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09-21-2009 06:32 PM  11 years ago
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Well Dragon2115 Glenn Beck may not ne what you call a journalist!! But I can you he has done a lot better job at digging up facts than amyone else that I can think thats are suppose to be journalist ....So for that I say KUDO's to him.Hirobo Evo 50 ,Jr9303 ((( Are Those Things Hard To Fly ?? Nah !! Snicker )))
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09-21-2009 10:25 PM  11 years ago
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Guys, you're preaching to the choir here. I just don't lose sight of what Beck does the rest of the time when I form my opinion of him.

Rotor,let me take one of your paragraphs and make a small change and then you tell me what's changed between then and now.

Every single journalist in the United States should have jumped on the story about Tony Rezko being a domestic terrorist revolutionary connected to a group guilty of killing a police officer, for which he has no remorse, and is very close to the president but not a single one did! That should tell us a lot.

As you'll recall the MSM hasn't cared very much about Obama's connection to other questionable people so why would they care about this one?
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09-21-2009 11:13 PM  11 years ago
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I thought that Tony Rezko was just a gangster that Obama owed a house to?
Bill Ayres is the domestic terrorist that Obama befriended years ago.
I'm sure that these relations mean nothing to the President.
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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09-22-2009 12:18 AM  11 years ago
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Thank you. My bad. There's been so many it's hard to keep them all straight.
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09-22-2009 03:45 AM  11 years ago
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No problem, even Obama has trouble keeping his criminal friends straight. Or remembering when they gave him a house or money or even the twenty years he spent in "Reverend" Wright's "Church".
Hell, He can't even tell us where he was born or why he was a foreigner when he applied for colledge!
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